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GLM-4.7 in opencode is the only opensource one that comes close in my experience and probably they did use some Claude data as I see the occasional You’re absol

GLM-4.7 in opencode is the only opensource one that comes close in my experience and probably they did use some Claude data as I see the occasional You’re absolutely right in there

kees99 9mo ago
Do you see "What's your use-case" too? Claude spits that very regularly at the end of the answer, when it's clearly out of it's depth, and wants to steer discussion away from that blind-spot.
- moltar 9mo ago
  Hm, use CC daily, never seen this.
- tw1984 9mo ago
  never ever saw that "What's your use-case" in Claude Code.
- yodon 9mo ago
  Perhaps being more intentional about adding a use case to your original prompts would make sense if you see that failure mode frequently? (Practicing treating LLM failures as prompting errors tends to give the best results, even if you feel the LLM "should" have worked with the original prompt).
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behnamoh 9mo ago
it's not even close to sonnet 4.5, let alone opus.
- hatefulmoron 9mo ago
  I got their z.ai plan to test alongside my Claude subscription; it feels about on par with something between sonnet 4.0 and sonnet 4.5. It's definitely a few steps below current day Claude, but it's very capable.
  - enraged_camel 9mo ago
    When you say "current day Claude" you need to distinguish between the models. Because Opus 4.5 is significantly ahead of Sonnet 4.5.
    - kachapopopow 9mo ago
      opus 4.5 is truly like magic, completely different type of intellience - not sure.
      - hhh 9mo ago
        most of my experience with 4.5 is similar to codex 5.1, where I just have to scold it for being dumb and doing things I would have done as a teenager
        kachapopopow 9mo ago
        dumbness usually comes from lack of information, humans are the same way - the difference between other llms is that if opus has information it has a ridiculously high accuracy on tasks.
      - croes 9mo ago
        Magic when it works.
    - hatefulmoron 9mo ago
      Yeah, when I say "current day Claude" I'm referring to Opus 4.5, which is what I always use on the max plan.
  - jijji 9mo ago
- brunooliv 9mo ago
  I agree completely, I meant in terms of opensource ones only. Opus 4.5 is the current SOTA and using it in Claude Code is an absolute amazing experience. But, paying 0 to test GLM-4.7 with opencode, feels like an amazing deal! I don’t use it for work though. But to keep “gaining experience” with these agents and tools, it’s by far the best option out there from all I’ve tried.

GLM-4.7 in opencode is the only opensource one that comes close in my experience and probably they did use some Claude data as I see the occasional You’re absolutely right in there

kees99 9mo ago

Do you see "What's your use-case" too? Claude spits that very regularly at the end of the answer, when it's clearly out of it's depth, and wants to steer discussion away from that blind-spot.

moltar 9mo ago
Hm, use CC daily, never seen this.
tw1984 9mo ago
never ever saw that "What's your use-case" in Claude Code.
yodon 9mo ago
Perhaps being more intentional about adding a use case to your original prompts would make sense if you see that failure mode frequently? (Practicing treating LLM failures as prompting errors tends to give the best results, even if you feel the LLM "should" have worked with the original prompt).
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behnamoh 9mo ago

it's not even close to sonnet 4.5, let alone opus.

hatefulmoron 9mo ago
I got their z.ai plan to test alongside my Claude subscription; it feels about on par with something between sonnet 4.0 and sonnet 4.5. It's definitely a few steps below current day Claude, but it's very capable.
- enraged_camel 9mo ago
  When you say "current day Claude" you need to distinguish between the models. Because Opus 4.5 is significantly ahead of Sonnet 4.5.
  - kachapopopow 9mo ago
    opus 4.5 is truly like magic, completely different type of intellience - not sure.
    - hhh 9mo ago
      most of my experience with 4.5 is similar to codex 5.1, where I just have to scold it for being dumb and doing things I would have done as a teenager
      - kachapopopow 9mo ago
        dumbness usually comes from lack of information, humans are the same way - the difference between other llms is that if opus has information it has a ridiculously high accuracy on tasks.
    - croes 9mo ago
      Magic when it works.
  - hatefulmoron 9mo ago
    Yeah, when I say "current day Claude" I'm referring to Opus 4.5, which is what I always use on the max plan.
- jijji 9mo ago
brunooliv 9mo ago
I agree completely, I meant in terms of opensource ones only. Opus 4.5 is the current SOTA and using it in Claude Code is an absolute amazing experience. But, paying 0 to test GLM-4.7 with opencode, feels like an amazing deal! I don’t use it for work though. But to keep “gaining experience” with these agents and tools, it’s by far the best option out there from all I’ve tried.