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IPv6 eliminates the possibility of proxies / VPNs. Being tracked simply by IP becomes non-optional.

Dagger2 10mo ago
Wat? It, um. No, it doesn't do that. You can use proxies and VPNs in v6, and you're about as trackable by IP as you are on v4.
- willis936 10mo ago
  Name one VPN service that supports IPv6. Perhaps the most existential reason IPv6 was invented was to make proxies obsolete. Either you use address translation or you don't.
  - Dagger2 10mo ago
    Proton VPN? And no, proxies were either never obsoleted or they were obsoleted by routing. Nothing to do with v6.
    - willis936 10mo ago
      My bar for "support" is higher than "linux only and you need IPv4 to initialize". https://protonvpn.com/support/prevent-ipv6-vpn-leaks https://protonvpn.com/support/prevent-ipv6-vpn-leaks
      - Dagger2 10mo ago
        That's a valid criticism of Proton VPN, but if it works even just on Linux it's sufficient to demonstrate that v6 doesn't eliminate the possibility of VPNs.
  - iso1631 10mo ago
    VPNs as a technology, gre/ipsec and wireguard. I assume others. VPNs as a youtube sold service. Mullvad/mozillavpn for one I get an IP of fc00:bbbb:bbbb:bb01::1 and it uses NAT66 to place me in New York despite being in the UK 1.|-- fc00:bbbb:bbbb:bb01::1 0.0% 10 78.6 80.2 78.6 82.0 1.2 2.|-- 2607:9000:a000:34::1 0.0% 10 80.1 80.3 79.3 81.2 0.7 3.|-- ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4.|-- 2607:f740:70:101::1 0.0% 10 82.2 83.9 79.8 104.3 7.2 5.|-- 2001:550:2:d::4a:1 90.0% 10 80.1 80.1 80.1 80.1 0.0 6.|-- be3448.agr22.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (2001:550:0:1000::9a36:1a9) 60.0% 10 80.4 81.0 79.2 82.9 1.5 and on
kstrauser 10mo ago
This is factually wrong. I have a VPN between my VPC and my house so services can communicate securely without configuring each one separately with TLS.

Wat? It, um. No, it doesn't do that. You can use proxies and VPNs in v6, and you're about as trackable by IP as you are on v4.

willis936 10mo ago
Name one VPN service that supports IPv6. Perhaps the most existential reason IPv6 was invented was to make proxies obsolete. Either you use address translation or you don't.
- Dagger2 10mo ago
  Proton VPN? And no, proxies were either never obsoleted or they were obsoleted by routing. Nothing to do with v6.
  - willis936 10mo ago
    My bar for "support" is higher than "linux only and you need IPv4 to initialize". https://protonvpn.com/support/prevent-ipv6-vpn-leaks https://protonvpn.com/support/prevent-ipv6-vpn-leaks
    - Dagger2 10mo ago
      That's a valid criticism of Proton VPN, but if it works even just on Linux it's sufficient to demonstrate that v6 doesn't eliminate the possibility of VPNs.
- iso1631 10mo ago
  VPNs as a technology, gre/ipsec and wireguard. I assume others. VPNs as a youtube sold service. Mullvad/mozillavpn for one I get an IP of fc00:bbbb:bbbb:bb01::1 and it uses NAT66 to place me in New York despite being in the UK 1.|-- fc00:bbbb:bbbb:bb01::1 0.0% 10 78.6 80.2 78.6 82.0 1.2 2.|-- 2607:9000:a000:34::1 0.0% 10 80.1 80.3 79.3 81.2 0.7 3.|-- ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 4.|-- 2607:f740:70:101::1 0.0% 10 82.2 83.9 79.8 104.3 7.2 5.|-- 2001:550:2:d::4a:1 90.0% 10 80.1 80.1 80.1 80.1 0.0 6.|-- be3448.agr22.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (2001:550:0:1000::9a36:1a9) 60.0% 10 80.4 81.0 79.2 82.9 1.5 and on

kstrauser 10mo ago

This is factually wrong. I have a VPN between my VPC and my house so services can communicate securely without configuring each one separately with TLS.