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> It is the Firefox of media players. So... the better option?

by jaapz 10mo ago

SirMaster 10mo ago
https://mpv.io/ https://mpv.io/
- drtgh 10mo ago
  Unofficial third-party builds from unknown github accounts; I think that you are really brave if you installed it. And the first party ones available there are for testing, with missing features :/ We do not have this kind of problems with VLC.
  - socalgal2 10mo ago
    Did you miss the github builds or just discounting them?
    - econ 10mo ago
      What happened to downloading an installer from the official website? Are we sending grandma to GitHub now?
      - napkin 10mo ago
        Things are complicated. As a policy, I wouldn’t want to encourage grandma to be going to any web site to download software. Grandma should probably stick to the App Store. And personally, I would way rather install github builds than downloads from ‘official’/independently maintained web sites. Especially in the case of free / open source projects, sometimes cash constrained. Security is hard. I’m not super knowledgeable about modern video players- I do like Infuse, which is in the App Store.
Drybones 10mo ago
IDK where you have been for the last decade, but Firefox has not been the better option since Chromium was made Disliking Google Chrome proper is one thing, but Chromium is superior in every way. Rendering, features, speed, memory management
- pseidemann 10mo ago
  The person is asking for the better option.
  - drtgh 10mo ago
    I coincide with the person, by the moment Firefox is the better option, the comparative form is confusing.
- savolai 10mo ago
  -1 tab containers Please elaborate on ”features”. Does chromium have non-google sync?
  - Drybones 10mo ago
    Chromium based browsers have non-google sync. Vivaldi implements their own encrypted sync service and I believe Brave does as well. But I am talking about browser feature support, not stuff that can supplemented with an extension like a password manager. Firefox has poor support for modern web features including video processing and encoding which makes it very bad at web conferencing/video calls or in-page streaming. Firefox's developer tools and console is also much worse and missing important features. Other features Firefox is missing or has poor support for compared to Chromium are WebGPU, WebTransport, Periodic Background Sync, and parts of WebRTC. Plus various APIs for web serial, badging, and Web Share are missing partial or full support. Firefox still doesn't have functional HDR for images and videos including AV1.
    - savolai 10mo ago
      Oh I thought you meant actual chromium browser. Those seem rather marginal features from my pov but of course once you need them, you need them, I guess.
izacus 10mo ago
This kind of insulting quip, refusing to engage with the body of the post, is really inappropriate. Can you please not behave like an arse?
BloodyIron 10mo ago
> So... the better option? Depends on what you care about. For me, Firefox really lacks in handling of very large amounts of tabs and a lot of features that I specifically use Vivaldi for. Does that mean Vivaldi is the best? Yes and No, it depends on what you care about. Is Firefox still a good browser? As far as I know, yes. But I don't use it much at all because it doesn't give _me_ what I want and need. And yes, I do actually need a large amount of tabs open at the same time very regularly due to the depth of references I work against in my line of work. That's on top of saving lots of bookmarks and syncing them via nextCloud. You like Firefox? Great, keep at it. You want to see features that aren't necessarily elsewhere? Consider trying Vivaldi and seeing if it's great for you or not. Let's not act like browser selection is binary, because it isn't, and it really hasn't been since netscape navigator was new. And even then it's up for debate.

> It is the Firefox of media players. So... the better option?

by jaapz 10mo ago

> It is the Firefox of media players. So... the better option?

SirMaster 10mo ago

https://mpv.io/ https://mpv.io/

drtgh 10mo ago
Unofficial third-party builds from unknown github accounts; I think that you are really brave if you installed it. And the first party ones available there are for testing, with missing features :/ We do not have this kind of problems with VLC.
- socalgal2 10mo ago
  Did you miss the github builds or just discounting them?
  - econ 10mo ago
    What happened to downloading an installer from the official website? Are we sending grandma to GitHub now?
    - napkin 10mo ago
      Things are complicated. As a policy, I wouldn’t want to encourage grandma to be going to any web site to download software. Grandma should probably stick to the App Store. And personally, I would way rather install github builds than downloads from ‘official’/independently maintained web sites. Especially in the case of free / open source projects, sometimes cash constrained. Security is hard. I’m not super knowledgeable about modern video players- I do like Infuse, which is in the App Store.

Drybones 10mo ago

IDK where you have been for the last decade, but Firefox has not been the better option since Chromium was made Disliking Google Chrome proper is one thing, but Chromium is superior in every way. Rendering, features, speed, memory management

pseidemann 10mo ago
The person is asking for the better option.
- drtgh 10mo ago
  I coincide with the person, by the moment Firefox is the better option, the comparative form is confusing.
savolai 10mo ago
-1 tab containers Please elaborate on ”features”. Does chromium have non-google sync?
- Drybones 10mo ago
  Chromium based browsers have non-google sync. Vivaldi implements their own encrypted sync service and I believe Brave does as well. But I am talking about browser feature support, not stuff that can supplemented with an extension like a password manager. Firefox has poor support for modern web features including video processing and encoding which makes it very bad at web conferencing/video calls or in-page streaming. Firefox's developer tools and console is also much worse and missing important features. Other features Firefox is missing or has poor support for compared to Chromium are WebGPU, WebTransport, Periodic Background Sync, and parts of WebRTC. Plus various APIs for web serial, badging, and Web Share are missing partial or full support. Firefox still doesn't have functional HDR for images and videos including AV1.
  - savolai 10mo ago
    Oh I thought you meant actual chromium browser. Those seem rather marginal features from my pov but of course once you need them, you need them, I guess.

izacus 10mo ago

This kind of insulting quip, refusing to engage with the body of the post, is really inappropriate. Can you please not behave like an arse?

BloodyIron 10mo ago

> So... the better option? Depends on what you care about. For me, Firefox really lacks in handling of very large amounts of tabs and a lot of features that I specifically use Vivaldi for. Does that mean Vivaldi is the best? Yes and No, it depends on what you care about. Is Firefox still a good browser? As far as I know, yes. But I don't use it much at all because it doesn't give _me_ what I want and need. And yes, I do actually need a large amount of tabs open at the same time very regularly due to the depth of references I work against in my line of work. That's on top of saving lots of bookmarks and syncing them via nextCloud. You like Firefox? Great, keep at it. You want to see features that aren't necessarily elsewhere? Consider trying Vivaldi and seeing if it's great for you or not. Let's not act like browser selection is binary, because it isn't, and it really hasn't been since netscape navigator was new. And even then it's up for debate.