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Meanwhile, there is a whole grey market built around this. People sell “CGNAT mobile proxies” that ride on carrier and ISP NAT, and the whole point is that they
by greyb 9mo ago
Meanwhile, there is a whole grey market built around this. People sell “CGNAT mobile proxies” that ride on carrier and ISP NAT, and the whole point is that they are a pain to block without nuking huge ISP ranges. So they get marketed as a convenient way to dodge shadowbans, spam filters, and basically any abuse defense that relies on IP reputation.
- hypeatei 9mo ago> the whole point is that they are a pain to block What makes them a pain to block? Angry users or some central database that lists these addresses as "do not block"?
- DANmode 9mo ago> What makes them a pain to block? Not wanting to cut off access to your users from, for example, every AT&T device (and their MVNOs).
- marcthe12 9mo agoSince cgnat means NATing a huge number of legimate device to a single ip. So angry users is the answer. Also note mobile users are usually the cgnat.
- pixl97 9mo agoIt would be nice if we had a blackout CGNAT day where a bunch of major sites don't serve traffic to people behind CGNAT to give the ISPs a bit of a scare.
- lyu07282 9mo agoThis is a win for the consumer though, we don't want to be tracked, your inability for abuse prevention is my ability to stay hidden in the crowd. Why should I care?
- pixl97 9mo agoHeh, if you think your ISP wouldn't sell port connection timing data to advertisers then you've missed all the history of them selling everything else. CGNAT is not a VPN.
- lyu07282 9mo agomy ISP is bound by my countries privacy regulation, I replace the trust of one party with every website i visit that could be located in fascist regimes without such laws.