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Are you able to move / relocate away from the UK? Unless the company is a FAANG company or hedge fund, the UK tech scene is dead. I don’t see any good UK star

Are you able to move / relocate away from the UK? Unless the company is a FAANG company or hedge fund, the UK tech scene is dead. I don’t see any good UK startups worth joining in the UK. All the good ones are in SF / NY, etc.

okokwhatever 10mo ago
Extend the statement to mostly all Europe. Tech ecosystem is dead in EU.
- hoppp 10mo ago
  So Uk dead, Eu dead.. How is Asia doin?
- c0balt 10mo ago
  That seems pretty overzealous, companies like SAP or Heinlein are doing well-ish and the recent push for digital sovereignty has induced some money. There also is a bunch of mixed shops (doing he and software or integration work). The primary difference is that many expect on-site and they pay is generally not US-startup scale. Many companies also expect you to at least have some knowledge of their local language (e. G., German, Spanish or Polnish) and not just English. One has to adapt to be competitive here.
  - KellyCriterion 10mo ago
    OK - test: Send an applicatio to SAP, on next Monday, and lets see - their CEO announced nearly regularly large lay offs
- chvid 10mo ago
  Rubbish - you guys are spending too much time on twitter x.
- lm28469 10mo ago
  Meanwhile there are 5m+ devs in Europe, more than in the US apparently.
  - mariogintili 10mo ago
    Nah, definitely not. And programmers haven't gotten any better in the last 5 years
    - lm28469 10mo ago
      Feel free to check on google... if you have insider info that aren't publicly available feel free to share them too!
- surgical_fire 10mo ago
  I must be a necromancer when I can afford a mortgage and a family being a Dev in EU. Software Development Lich. Does have a nice ring to it. Maybe my old Nintendo Switch can be my phylactery. I have a particular fondness for it.
mariogintili 10mo ago
I can, I have an EU nationality so working for an EU client is seamless to me. > Unless the company is a FAANG company or hedge fund, the UK tech scene is dead. That is VERY, VERY true > I don’t see any good UK startups worth joining in the UK. All the good ones are in SF / NY, etc. There's a few popping up all over the EU too but from my search a single hub in the US(Say Austin, TX) has a bigger and better ecosystem than the entirety of UK+EU. Funding is better over there too
- karakoram 10mo ago
  Mario Can you please expand on the comment that you agree with, "the UK Tech scene is dead". What's actually going on within the UK tech jobs landscape? What about certain sectors like fintech? What about all the recent AI startups hiring? What are your on-ground observations? Within my LinkedIn feed bubble, things are not that bad in the UK, but what is actually happening?
andyjohnson0 10mo ago
> Unless the company is a FAANG company or hedge fund, the UK tech scene is dead. Try to look beyond startups and pure software companies. There are many businesses in eg manufacturing or in less fashionable locations that struggle to hire decent devs and will often pay pretty good† money. † obviously not London/SV/NY/FAANG money

okokwhatever 10mo ago

Extend the statement to mostly all Europe. Tech ecosystem is dead in EU.

hoppp 10mo ago
So Uk dead, Eu dead.. How is Asia doin?
c0balt 10mo ago
That seems pretty overzealous, companies like SAP or Heinlein are doing well-ish and the recent push for digital sovereignty has induced some money. There also is a bunch of mixed shops (doing he and software or integration work). The primary difference is that many expect on-site and they pay is generally not US-startup scale. Many companies also expect you to at least have some knowledge of their local language (e. G., German, Spanish or Polnish) and not just English. One has to adapt to be competitive here.
- KellyCriterion 10mo ago
  OK - test: Send an applicatio to SAP, on next Monday, and lets see - their CEO announced nearly regularly large lay offs
chvid 10mo ago
Rubbish - you guys are spending too much time on twitter x.
lm28469 10mo ago
Meanwhile there are 5m+ devs in Europe, more than in the US apparently.
- mariogintili 10mo ago
  Nah, definitely not. And programmers haven't gotten any better in the last 5 years
  - lm28469 10mo ago
    Feel free to check on google... if you have insider info that aren't publicly available feel free to share them too!
surgical_fire 10mo ago
I must be a necromancer when I can afford a mortgage and a family being a Dev in EU. Software Development Lich. Does have a nice ring to it. Maybe my old Nintendo Switch can be my phylactery. I have a particular fondness for it.

mariogintili 10mo ago

I can, I have an EU nationality so working for an EU client is seamless to me. > Unless the company is a FAANG company or hedge fund, the UK tech scene is dead. That is VERY, VERY true > I don’t see any good UK startups worth joining in the UK. All the good ones are in SF / NY, etc. There's a few popping up all over the EU too but from my search a single hub in the US(Say Austin, TX) has a bigger and better ecosystem than the entirety of UK+EU. Funding is better over there too

karakoram 10mo ago
Mario Can you please expand on the comment that you agree with, "the UK Tech scene is dead". What's actually going on within the UK tech jobs landscape? What about certain sectors like fintech? What about all the recent AI startups hiring? What are your on-ground observations? Within my LinkedIn feed bubble, things are not that bad in the UK, but what is actually happening?

andyjohnson0 10mo ago

> Unless the company is a FAANG company or hedge fund, the UK tech scene is dead. Try to look beyond startups and pure software companies. There are many businesses in eg manufacturing or in less fashionable locations that struggle to hire decent devs and will often pay pretty good† money. † obviously not London/SV/NY/FAANG money