3 ms·
This adds nothing. It has been repeatedly shown that stupid abstinence-driven approaches to public health do not work. It’s equivalent to saying “maybe the obes
by matthewmacleod 9mo ago
This adds nothing. It has been repeatedly shown that stupid abstinence-driven approaches to public health do not work. It’s equivalent to saying “maybe the obesity crisis would be solved if we all just ate less”.
Moral crusades have zero place in public health and are actively harmful.
- bluGill 9mo agoThis isn't an abstinence driven approach it is a marry 'young' and then only that one partener for life.
- ulfw 9mo agoWhat a truly sad life
- nxm 9mo agoAnd yet countless couples followed this path in life and are happy
- tpm 9mo agoAnd countless couples followed this path in life and are not happy at all, and countless individuals can't for a variety of reasons follow this path. But public health advice should also be available to them.
- nephihaha 9mo agoPsychology is a whole other matter, but if you're talking about sleeping around like Bonnie Blue then it is a form of Russian roulette and is likely to result in physical health trouble. Especially if people are having unprotected sex. HPV spreads through oral sex as well by the way.
- tpm 9mo agoI am not talking about 'sleeping around' at all. Just by the look at the divorce rates around the world it is very clear that 'marry young and then never change partners' is an advice divorced from reality.
- nephihaha 9mo agoDivorce is horrible for sure but that is mainly down to interpersonal relationships. It is a simple fact that unprotected sex with large numbers of people is very risky. We should have learnt that lesson in the eighties.
- wpietri 9mo agoIf there's somebody out there advocating for "unprotected sex with large numbers of people", you should go post at them, because I don't see that here. The biggest barrier to disease transmission reduction, at least here in the US, is uncritical abstinence promoters like yourself. It works, at best, for a small fraction of the population, and leaves the rest woefully unprepared for the biological realities. The best solution to STDs is education. Which, yes, should emphasize that not having sex is an option, but cannot stop there.
- LorenPechtel 9mo agoStrawman--nobody's suggesting unprotected sex with many people. Simple data point, though: my wife is from China, grew up in a culture where divorce is basically unheard of. At first she was horrified at what she saw here--but over time she's come to see the marriages of her culture weren't any more successful. It just they turned into unhappy people staying together for reasons of face. Just about everyone she was close enough to to know about their marriage was no longer having sex.
- CalRobert 9mo agoMany miserable people married young and are trapped until they die.
- isbvhodnvemrwvn 9mo agoSame goes for people who did not.
- nephihaha 9mo agoNot as sad as catching something which will damage you physically, sterilise them or even kill them. People don't want to hear this obviously. But it is a fact STI transmission has skyrocketed since the so called sexual revolution of the late sixties. Within fifteen years, we has an AIDS epidemic.
- CalRobert 9mo agoGen z are depressed, lonely, and less sexually active then their predecessors, so you may see your desired change come to pass.
- matthewmacleod 9mo agoBut it is a fact STI transmission has skyrocketed since the so called sexual revolution of the late sixties It’s the opposite of a fact. Gonorrhoea rates as an example rose significantly in the 1960s, but are now lower than in the 1940s and 1950s. This is thanks to good public health measures. Start by making sure you’re accurately informed.
- LorenPechtel 9mo agoIt's not that STDs exploded, it's that they weren't hidden away.
- matthewmacleod 9mo agoThat just seems like abstinence with extra steps.
- LorenPechtel 9mo agoExcept it doesn't work very well. Those who marry younger are more likely to divorce. Or lead unhappy lives because they don't divorce to save face, but the marriage is dead.
- nephihaha 9mo ago[flagged]
- matthewmacleod 9mo agoYeah that’s a moral crusade. It’s a public health issue; you deal with it through public health measures like education, vaccination, and treatment. You don’t make it go away by wagging your finger at it.
- Krssst 9mo ago> Disease transmission becomes prevalent if people keep doing the things which spread it The solution to covid/flu is wearing well-fitting masks and vaccines rather than never getting out. The solution to STIs is good protection with vaccines, condoms and tests. Religion can stay out of that.