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Promiscuity is not a healthy lifestyle and we need to stop presenting it as one. The AIDS crisis of the 1980s should have been enough of a warning. If people do
by nephihaha 10mo ago
Promiscuity is not a healthy lifestyle and we need to stop presenting it as one. The AIDS crisis of the 1980s should have been enough of a warning. If people don't sleep around then HPV's spread will be much reduced and they will be much less likely to catch other STIs.
- matthewmacleod 10mo agoThis adds nothing. It has been repeatedly shown that stupid abstinence-driven approaches to public health do not work. It’s equivalent to saying “maybe the obesity crisis would be solved if we all just ate less”. Moral crusades have zero place in public health and are actively harmful.
- bluGill 10mo agoThis isn't an abstinence driven approach it is a marry 'young' and then only that one partener for life.
- ulfw 10mo agoWhat a truly sad life
- nxm 10mo agoAnd yet countless couples followed this path in life and are happy
- tpm 10mo agoAnd countless couples followed this path in life and are not happy at all, and countless individuals can't for a variety of reasons follow this path. But public health advice should also be available to them.
- nephihaha 10mo agoPsychology is a whole other matter, but if you're talking about sleeping around like Bonnie Blue then it is a form of Russian roulette and is likely to result in physical health trouble. Especially if people are having unprotected sex. HPV spreads through oral sex as well by the way.
- tpm 10mo agoI am not talking about 'sleeping around' at all. Just by the look at the divorce rates around the world it is very clear that 'marry young and then never change partners' is an advice divorced from reality.
- nephihaha 10mo agoDivorce is horrible for sure but that is mainly down to interpersonal relationships. It is a simple fact that unprotected sex with large numbers of people is very risky. We should have learnt that lesson in the eighties.
- wpietri 10mo agoIf there's somebody out there advocating for "unprotected sex with large numbers of people", you should go post at them, because I don't see that here. The biggest barrier to disease transmission reduction, at least here in the US, is uncritical abstinence promoters like yourself. It works, at best, for a small fraction of the population, and leaves the rest woefully unprepared for the biological realities. The best solution to STDs is education. Which, yes, should emphasize that not having sex is an option, but cannot stop there.
- LorenPechtel 10mo agoStrawman--nobody's suggesting unprotected sex with many people. Simple data point, though: my wife is from China, grew up in a culture where divorce is basically unheard of. At first she was horrified at what she saw here--but over time she's come to see the marriages of her culture weren't any more successful. It just they turned into unhappy people staying together for reasons of face. Just about everyone she was close enough to to know about their marriage was no longer having sex.
- CalRobert 10mo agoMany miserable people married young and are trapped until they die.
- isbvhodnvemrwvn 10mo agoSame goes for people who did not.
- nephihaha 10mo agoNot as sad as catching something which will damage you physically, sterilise them or even kill them. People don't want to hear this obviously. But it is a fact STI transmission has skyrocketed since the so called sexual revolution of the late sixties. Within fifteen years, we has an AIDS epidemic.
- CalRobert 10mo agoGen z are depressed, lonely, and less sexually active then their predecessors, so you may see your desired change come to pass.
- matthewmacleod 10mo agoBut it is a fact STI transmission has skyrocketed since the so called sexual revolution of the late sixties It’s the opposite of a fact. Gonorrhoea rates as an example rose significantly in the 1960s, but are now lower than in the 1940s and 1950s. This is thanks to good public health measures. Start by making sure you’re accurately informed.
- LorenPechtel 10mo agoIt's not that STDs exploded, it's that they weren't hidden away.
- matthewmacleod 10mo agoThat just seems like abstinence with extra steps.
- LorenPechtel 10mo agoExcept it doesn't work very well. Those who marry younger are more likely to divorce. Or lead unhappy lives because they don't divorce to save face, but the marriage is dead.
- nephihaha 10mo ago[flagged]
- matthewmacleod 10mo agoYeah that’s a moral crusade. It’s a public health issue; you deal with it through public health measures like education, vaccination, and treatment. You don’t make it go away by wagging your finger at it.
- Krssst 10mo ago> Disease transmission becomes prevalent if people keep doing the things which spread it The solution to covid/flu is wearing well-fitting masks and vaccines rather than never getting out. The solution to STIs is good protection with vaccines, condoms and tests. Religion can stay out of that.
- tokioyoyo 10mo agoIf people stopped driving, we would have zero car crashes.
- nephihaha 10mo ago[flagged]
- resoluteteeth 10mo agoA better comparison would be saying that we shouldn't have seat belts because people should be driving more carefully in the first place.
- nephihaha 10mo agoThat's a category error as well.
- LorenPechtel 10mo agoThe AIDS crisis happened because it was unknown and very stealthy--nobody knew there was a risk to be guarded against. And it certainly didn't help that because of the association with gays the government response was slow-rolled. Same thing we saw with Covid--the US response was slow-rolled because at first it looked like it was selecting for blue areas. Without the gays it might have gone a long time as a blood vector without being identified. When it was a "gay" disease it was busy killing old people who got transfusions but were never identified as having AIDS.