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> 1990's purely for benevolence towards Russia. When you're a country as small and insignificant as Estonia is you're not doing anything out of "benevolence" t

by paganel 10mo ago

> 1990's purely for benevolence towards Russia. When you're a country as small and insignificant as Estonia is you're not doing anything out of "benevolence" towards a nuclear hyper-power, but what do I know?. maybe the Maja Kallas-types really do believe in their own word-blabber.

majorbugger 10mo ago
You can't even write her name correctly
- paganel 10mo ago
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  - simonh 10mo ago
    It really doesn't.
    - paganel 10mo ago
      It shows that Kallas is a nobody.
      - simonh 10mo ago
        Zelensky was arguably a nobody internationally, until he lead his country to stalling out the entire military might of the Russian Federation in a war that's only a few months away from being longer than the Great Patriotic One, and keep on giving Russia bloodey noses like taking out a chunk of their strategic bomber fleet, the underwater drone strike on Novorossiysk, and tanking the Russian economy. Not bad for a literal comedian.
  - nubg 10mo ago
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    - paganel 10mo ago
      > Your point being ignorance. As long as you live in the West I don't live in the West, I live in Romania. > Anything else is betrayal. You are of course free to move to Moscow at anytime Waiting for the Russians right here on the streets of Bucharest, like in August of 1944, thank you very much.
      - nubg 10mo ago
        Romania is the West.
vardump 10mo ago
Hyper-power, seriously? Russia is not even a super power, it only has some nuclear weapons, that’s all. Just like India, Pakistan, France, Israel, etc. In all likelihood most Russia’s nuclear weapons aren’t even operable anymore.
- paganel 10mo ago
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  - tvbusy 10mo ago
    Oh my! Someone made the Russian troll angry. Poor little troll having no way to respond and have to switch tactic
  - nubg 10mo ago
    Cope :-) Pyat rubley have been deposited into your Sparkasse account.
  - vardump 10mo ago
    I think I’ve heard about NAFO being mentioned, but didn’t pay any attention to it. Thanks for the tip!
  - quickthrowman 10mo ago
    He’s not wrong, Russia is a gas station run by a mafia that happens to have nuclear weapons, not a superpower. Superpowers don’t threaten to use their nuclear weapons, they don’t need to.
    - carlosjobim 10mo ago
      All official nuclear countries have threatened with their nukes, as far as I know. The unofficial of course stay silent.
  - mrbukkake 10mo ago
    god russians are pathetic lol
Roark66 10mo ago
Hyper power that can't overwhelm a country that was supposed to fold in 48h? Give me a break. While your sentiment may be correct in 2010s it certainly was not when these things were being decided in early 90s. USSR and Russia which de facto ruled it was seen as a failed state that needs "western help" and on a path to democracy. While we (here in Poland) we're quite skeptical, having the Russian WW2 occupying force leave in 1991 (yes, we didn't get freedom after WW2 until 1991). There was still a lot of hope Russia will follow in the footsteps of other central/eastern European countries like Poland/Czech/The Baltics if only we help them. So yes, there was huge resentment, but also a huge benefit of hope and benevolence too. Was some of this calculated? Sure. No doubt someone sat in Talin and Helsinki and thought: if we treat them like post WW1 Germany it will be easier for the extremists to take power. So let's not pour sand in their fuel tank as they are desperately trying to restart the engine of their economy. I don't even think it was a mistake at the time. It was a decent way to behave. But the moment the tide has started turning in Russia towards autocracy the screw should've been tightened. No oil and gas should fund Russian army after at least their attack on Georgia. If not before when the atrocities of the Chechen war became known. Unfortunately corrupt politicians (that are still in power in Europe and even in my country) have continued signing deals and making money by financing what was clearly a huge enemy in the making. Russia wasn't an eny in 1993, but it certainly was one in 2008 when it invaded Goergia. If only we acted properly in early 2000s all of this could've been prevented.

by paganel 10mo ago

majorbugger 10mo ago

You can't even write her name correctly

paganel 10mo ago
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- simonh 10mo ago
  It really doesn't.
  - paganel 10mo ago
    It shows that Kallas is a nobody.
    - simonh 10mo ago
      Zelensky was arguably a nobody internationally, until he lead his country to stalling out the entire military might of the Russian Federation in a war that's only a few months away from being longer than the Great Patriotic One, and keep on giving Russia bloodey noses like taking out a chunk of their strategic bomber fleet, the underwater drone strike on Novorossiysk, and tanking the Russian economy. Not bad for a literal comedian.
- nubg 10mo ago
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  - paganel 10mo ago
    > Your point being ignorance. As long as you live in the West I don't live in the West, I live in Romania. > Anything else is betrayal. You are of course free to move to Moscow at anytime Waiting for the Russians right here on the streets of Bucharest, like in August of 1944, thank you very much.
    - nubg 10mo ago
      Romania is the West.

vardump 10mo ago

Hyper-power, seriously? Russia is not even a super power, it only has some nuclear weapons, that’s all. Just like India, Pakistan, France, Israel, etc. In all likelihood most Russia’s nuclear weapons aren’t even operable anymore.

paganel 10mo ago
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- tvbusy 10mo ago
  Oh my! Someone made the Russian troll angry. Poor little troll having no way to respond and have to switch tactic
- nubg 10mo ago
  Cope :-) Pyat rubley have been deposited into your Sparkasse account.
- vardump 10mo ago
  I think I’ve heard about NAFO being mentioned, but didn’t pay any attention to it. Thanks for the tip!
- quickthrowman 10mo ago
  He’s not wrong, Russia is a gas station run by a mafia that happens to have nuclear weapons, not a superpower. Superpowers don’t threaten to use their nuclear weapons, they don’t need to.
  - carlosjobim 10mo ago
    All official nuclear countries have threatened with their nukes, as far as I know. The unofficial of course stay silent.
- mrbukkake 10mo ago
  god russians are pathetic lol

Roark66 10mo ago

Hyper power that can't overwhelm a country that was supposed to fold in 48h? Give me a break. While your sentiment may be correct in 2010s it certainly was not when these things were being decided in early 90s. USSR and Russia which de facto ruled it was seen as a failed state that needs "western help" and on a path to democracy. While we (here in Poland) we're quite skeptical, having the Russian WW2 occupying force leave in 1991 (yes, we didn't get freedom after WW2 until 1991). There was still a lot of hope Russia will follow in the footsteps of other central/eastern European countries like Poland/Czech/The Baltics if only we help them. So yes, there was huge resentment, but also a huge benefit of hope and benevolence too. Was some of this calculated? Sure. No doubt someone sat in Talin and Helsinki and thought: if we treat them like post WW1 Germany it will be easier for the extremists to take power. So let's not pour sand in their fuel tank as they are desperately trying to restart the engine of their economy. I don't even think it was a mistake at the time. It was a decent way to behave. But the moment the tide has started turning in Russia towards autocracy the screw should've been tightened. No oil and gas should fund Russian army after at least their attack on Georgia. If not before when the atrocities of the Chechen war became known. Unfortunately corrupt politicians (that are still in power in Europe and even in my country) have continued signing deals and making money by financing what was clearly a huge enemy in the making. Russia wasn't an eny in 1993, but it certainly was one in 2008 when it invaded Goergia. If only we acted properly in early 2000s all of this could've been prevented.