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I don't have much faith in Firefox saving us, given its organizational turnover and cultural issues. I have much more faith in a new entrant, like Ladybird. I

• ethbr1 10mo ago
  The problem with "new entrant" is that only revolutionary features convince users to switch en mass. Tabs/stability (Firefox vs IE). V8 (Chrome vs Firefox). Anything else is a battle of attrition, where the deepest pocketed competitor in terms of advertising spend wins. Or Google, because it flood all its own advertising channels. And Chrome still barely only won.
• pipeline_peak 10mo ago
  Ladybird has too much pride. They are more concerned with making something from scratch than something that actually works. Also they’re switching over to Swift which can only be worse for performance.
  • thingortwo 10mo ago
    So what do you want another chromium based browser? The whole point of Ladybird is to kinda prove that a completely independent browser engine is feasible. Also, they are not doing everything from scratch for example it will use the same graphics library that chromium uses (Skia) and also now firefox. You should probably read the FAQ on their homepage: https://ladybird.org/#:~:text=What%20does%20%22No%20code%20from%20other%20browsers%22%20really%20mean%3F https://ladybird.org/#:~:text=What%20does%20%22No%20code%20f...
    • pipeline_peak 10mo ago
      > So what do you want another chromium based browser? I want something free of Google code, which sounds like they aren’t doing if Skia is anyway involved. Instead they’re wasting resources where it’s less needed. Like building a JS engine instead of starting off with something like SpiderMonkey, JSCore, or QuickJS.
      • Gabrys1 10mo ago
        Let them spend resources however they want. It's not like they are subsidized or anything
        • pipeline_peak 10mo ago
          >It's not like they are subsidized or anything View sponsors https://ladybird.org/ https://ladybird.org/
          • Gabrys1 10mo ago
            Am I missing any govt org there?
            • pipeline_peak 10mo ago
              Subsidize doesn’t only mean government funded.