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Potential unconstitutionality? There is no constitutional basis for deporting 100 million people from America. None. Illegal immigrants? Sure. Whether or n

Potential unconstitutionality? There is no constitutional basis for deporting 100 million people from America. None. Illegal immigrants? Sure. Whether or not they have committed any crimes while here, it's clearly within the federal government's legitimate authority. Legal immigrants? It's a jerk move, if you said they could come in and now you change your mind, but it's probably not unconstitutional. But we have an estimated 14 million illegal immigrants, and 48 million legal. So, deport 38 million citizens? On what basis would that be constitutional? There's no way. I care far more about the damage to the rule of law than I do about the damage to the tech industry.

SilverElfin 10mo ago
I assume you meant 48 million legal immigrants? For the citizens I think their strategy is to get SCOTUS to undo birthright citizenship for that type of citizen and to come up with complex ways of undoing other people’s citizenship by suggesting they committed fraud in the process or something.
- AnimalMuppet 10mo ago
  Yes. Fixed. And, yes, I fear that is the strategy and/or plan. I am vehemently opposed, but I'm not sure how to effectively oppose this. I still have some hope for sanity on this from the Supreme Court, but that's the last line of defense that I see, and I don't have much influence there.
- dragonwriter 10mo ago
  > For the citizens I think their strategy is to get SCOTUS to undo birthright citizenship for that type of citizen What do you mean “For that type of citizen”? There is no definable “type of citizen” that (after deporting all the foreign-born population regardless of citizenship) that gets you anywhere near the 100 million total unless it is something like “non-White”. (If you imagine that it something like US-born children of non-citizen parents, which is what most of the discussion of revoking birthright citizenship focusses on, that doesn't get you anywhere close.)
  - krapp 10mo ago
    >There is no definable “type of citizen” that (after deporting all the foreign-born population regardless of citizenship) that gets you anywhere near the 100 million total unless it is something like “non-White”. got it in one.

SilverElfin 10mo ago

I assume you meant 48 million legal immigrants? For the citizens I think their strategy is to get SCOTUS to undo birthright citizenship for that type of citizen and to come up with complex ways of undoing other people’s citizenship by suggesting they committed fraud in the process or something.

AnimalMuppet 10mo ago
Yes. Fixed. And, yes, I fear that is the strategy and/or plan. I am vehemently opposed, but I'm not sure how to effectively oppose this. I still have some hope for sanity on this from the Supreme Court, but that's the last line of defense that I see, and I don't have much influence there.
dragonwriter 10mo ago
> For the citizens I think their strategy is to get SCOTUS to undo birthright citizenship for that type of citizen What do you mean “For that type of citizen”? There is no definable “type of citizen” that (after deporting all the foreign-born population regardless of citizenship) that gets you anywhere near the 100 million total unless it is something like “non-White”. (If you imagine that it something like US-born children of non-citizen parents, which is what most of the discussion of revoking birthright citizenship focusses on, that doesn't get you anywhere close.)
- krapp 10mo ago
  >There is no definable “type of citizen” that (after deporting all the foreign-born population regardless of citizenship) that gets you anywhere near the 100 million total unless it is something like “non-White”. got it in one.