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"Besieged by the third world?" Odd. I thought this was just about enforcing existing immigration laws and only targeting illegal immigrants. I'm pretty sure th

by krapp 10mo ago

"Besieged by the third world?" Odd. I thought this was just about enforcing existing immigration laws and only targeting illegal immigrants. I'm pretty sure there aren't 100 million illegal immigrants in the US. There aren't even that many legal immigrants in the US.

SilverElfin 10mo ago
I think they want to remove the citizenship of anyone born outside America and anyone born to parents that aren’t citizens, based on some posts I saw earlier on Twitter that were supporting this DHS message.
- krapp 10mo ago
  I never thought I'd say this - younger me would slap current me in the face for even thinking it - but I miss W and the neocons. Still irredeemably evil, but not "Snidely Whiplash tying a Mexican to the train tracks and posting it to the 'Gram" evil.
  - SilverElfin 10mo ago
    I don’t think you’re alone. I have had the same feeling about W. I think the current lunge towards the far right feels far less “contained” and I’m not sure where it will eventually take this country. And then there are the damaged relationships with other countries. I couldn’t have imagined having a broken relationship with Canada. What is America’s place in the future world after this administration?
  - dragonwriter 10mo ago
    > I never thought I'd say this - younger me would slap current me in the face for even thinking it - but I miss W and the neocons. I occasionally think this for a moment, but then I remember that the present state of the Republican Party is a takeover by groups the GOP has actively courted, encouraged, and and whipped up since Nixon (or, perhaps more to the point, since the most recent time that group became angry with the Democratic Party because of Johnson’s support for the Civil Rights Act), helping its ideology spread and become acceptable, who had gotten tired of the way the party addressed them to get their support not being fully reflected in the way the party actually governed.
    - krapp 10mo ago
      I take it back because I remember which administration the Abu Ghraib stuff happened under.
- bdangubic 10mo ago
  > I think they want to remove the citizenship of anyone born outside America and anyone born to parents that aren’t citizens… … and are not white
- dragonwriter 10mo ago
  > I think they want to remove the citizenship of anyone born outside America and anyone born to parents that aren’t citizens The entire foreign born population, at the high end of estimates, is around 55 million. US-born children of foreign born parents doesn't get you anywhere close to 45 million more.

by krapp 10mo ago

SilverElfin 10mo ago

I think they want to remove the citizenship of anyone born outside America and anyone born to parents that aren’t citizens, based on some posts I saw earlier on Twitter that were supporting this DHS message.

krapp 10mo ago
I never thought I'd say this - younger me would slap current me in the face for even thinking it - but I miss W and the neocons. Still irredeemably evil, but not "Snidely Whiplash tying a Mexican to the train tracks and posting it to the 'Gram" evil.
- SilverElfin 10mo ago
  I don’t think you’re alone. I have had the same feeling about W. I think the current lunge towards the far right feels far less “contained” and I’m not sure where it will eventually take this country. And then there are the damaged relationships with other countries. I couldn’t have imagined having a broken relationship with Canada. What is America’s place in the future world after this administration?
- dragonwriter 10mo ago
  > I never thought I'd say this - younger me would slap current me in the face for even thinking it - but I miss W and the neocons. I occasionally think this for a moment, but then I remember that the present state of the Republican Party is a takeover by groups the GOP has actively courted, encouraged, and and whipped up since Nixon (or, perhaps more to the point, since the most recent time that group became angry with the Democratic Party because of Johnson’s support for the Civil Rights Act), helping its ideology spread and become acceptable, who had gotten tired of the way the party addressed them to get their support not being fully reflected in the way the party actually governed.
  - krapp 10mo ago
    I take it back because I remember which administration the Abu Ghraib stuff happened under.
bdangubic 10mo ago
> I think they want to remove the citizenship of anyone born outside America and anyone born to parents that aren’t citizens… … and are not white
dragonwriter 10mo ago
> I think they want to remove the citizenship of anyone born outside America and anyone born to parents that aren’t citizens The entire foreign born population, at the high end of estimates, is around 55 million. US-born children of foreign born parents doesn't get you anywhere close to 45 million more.