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You think Python is being malicious for asking for donations when they give away so much for free? Had you already paid for it ahead of time?

PaulHoule 10mo ago
Personally I wouldn't mind the ask, it's the pop-up that covers content that I mind.
tpm 10mo ago
No, the issue is the intrusive way of asking.
Kwpolska 10mo ago
It’s not Python asking for donations, it’s the Python Software Foundation. Which means donations won’t necessarily go to improving Python or running PyPI, but your money might end up funding a conference in Trumpistan, outreach for the world’s most popular programming language, or political activities.
- manwe150 10mo ago
  You apparently can donate to PyPI more directly if you want (same popup, but redirects to a more specific donation site), though since that site is run by PSF, that money goes through PSF and it is unclear if it is earmarked along the way: https://psfmember.org/civicrm/contribute/transact/?reset=1&id=13 https://psfmember.org/civicrm/contribute/transact/?reset=1&i...
  - LtWorf 10mo ago
    Why would I want to donate to pypi? So that corporations can redownload the same files over and over millions of times in their ci/cd and be lazy about creating a local mirror? Or to fund more integration with github, or remove more features?
- blell 10mo ago
  This is very important. It's one thing to have your money improve CPython, it's another to have your money go towards an outreach program to help disadvantaged girls in Uganda write a Tetris clone in Python. It's similar to what happens with Mozilla. A way of choosing what exactly will be done with your money is fundamental to get donations.
- LtWorf 10mo ago
  Let's not forget funding pypi so that they may remove other features such as gpg signatures.
Alex2037 10mo ago
are the donations being distributed among the actual contributors, or do they largely go towards funding DEI initiatives? :)
- jaapz 10mo ago
  Looks like you think you know the answer, so for all of us who don't, please enlighten us
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- LtWorf 10mo ago
  I got a 2 weeks ban from the python discuss when I suggested that contributors that contribute on behalf of an employer should disclose the fact and who the employer is.
ashf023 10mo ago
Genuine question, but have you seen the popup being described? It's absolutely huge, and has a fake x button pattern. The complaint is on how disruptive it is, not the ask for donations

PaulHoule 10mo ago

Personally I wouldn't mind the ask, it's the pop-up that covers content that I mind.

tpm 10mo ago

No, the issue is the intrusive way of asking.

Kwpolska 10mo ago

It’s not Python asking for donations, it’s the Python Software Foundation. Which means donations won’t necessarily go to improving Python or running PyPI, but your money might end up funding a conference in Trumpistan, outreach for the world’s most popular programming language, or political activities.

manwe150 10mo ago
You apparently can donate to PyPI more directly if you want (same popup, but redirects to a more specific donation site), though since that site is run by PSF, that money goes through PSF and it is unclear if it is earmarked along the way: https://psfmember.org/civicrm/contribute/transact/?reset=1&id=13 https://psfmember.org/civicrm/contribute/transact/?reset=1&i...
- LtWorf 10mo ago
  Why would I want to donate to pypi? So that corporations can redownload the same files over and over millions of times in their ci/cd and be lazy about creating a local mirror? Or to fund more integration with github, or remove more features?
blell 10mo ago
This is very important. It's one thing to have your money improve CPython, it's another to have your money go towards an outreach program to help disadvantaged girls in Uganda write a Tetris clone in Python. It's similar to what happens with Mozilla. A way of choosing what exactly will be done with your money is fundamental to get donations.
LtWorf 10mo ago
Let's not forget funding pypi so that they may remove other features such as gpg signatures.

Alex2037 10mo ago

are the donations being distributed among the actual contributors, or do they largely go towards funding DEI initiatives? :)

jaapz 10mo ago
Looks like you think you know the answer, so for all of us who don't, please enlighten us
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LtWorf 10mo ago
I got a 2 weeks ban from the python discuss when I suggested that contributors that contribute on behalf of an employer should disclose the fact and who the employer is.

ashf023 10mo ago

Genuine question, but have you seen the popup being described? It's absolutely huge, and has a fake x button pattern. The complaint is on how disruptive it is, not the ask for donations