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I think you nailed it. This person is not living, and may never live. When their birds fly the coop and, worse, when they themselves retire, they're in for a wh

by nchmy 10mo ago

I think you nailed it. This person is not living, and may never live. When their birds fly the coop and, worse, when they themselves retire, they're in for a whole world of emptiness.

bombcar 10mo ago
This is something more dangerous that people realize, especially those “working for retirement” - if you only live to work, and then retire, you may find you retire from living, too. Seen it a few too many times. Live life today, people! “ So do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will bring worries of its own. Today’s trouble is enough for today.” “ And don't worry 'bout tomorrow, hey Sha-la-la-la-la-la, live for today”
- lotsofpulp 10mo ago
  That’s fine, but the incongruence comes when one expects unlimited supply of healthcare and a cash payment for decades in old age. Especially if one didn’t raise enough productive kids to pay for it, so then the question becomes if you’re not planning for tomorrow, why are others who are planning for tomorrow paying for your tomorrow?
  - nchmy 10mo ago
    nice try ron paul
    - lotsofpulp 10mo ago
      Puzzling reply (assuming ron paul is being used as a pejorative), considering your adjacent comment seems to agree with my sentiment.
      - nchmy 10mo ago
        no, not even slightly. Im very much in favour of socializing all sorts of things. Ron paul was used to describe the sort of (seemingly) libertarian "leave me alone, i dont want to know you. please go die" views you espoused.
        lotsofpulp 10mo ago
        I did not espouse such views. There exist resource constraints in reality which contradict the attitude presented by the post I responded to, unless they were willing to forego those socialized benefits.
  - bombcar 10mo ago
    As the other comment pointed out; living for today doesn’t mean NOT planning for the future. The key is not assuming that some future date will bring happiness - that is something that has to be found each day.
- nchmy 10mo ago
  I was absolutely not advocating for not having any thought for the future, nor for "living in the moment". I was saying that you must do both - dont just slave away and expect that you'll live when you're retired (a lifestyle which makes it less likely that you would even live until retirement age, let alone be physically or even mentally capable of enjoying retirement). Instead, live in a way such that there it is meaningful while you do it, and it also prepares you for the future. Again, this would also have the benefit of showing your kids and others how to do this themselves.

by nchmy 10mo ago

I think you nailed it. This person is not living, and may never live. When their birds fly the coop and, worse, when they themselves retire, they're in for a whole world of emptiness.

bombcar 10mo ago

This is something more dangerous that people realize, especially those “working for retirement” - if you only live to work, and then retire, you may find you retire from living, too. Seen it a few too many times. Live life today, people! “ So do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will bring worries of its own. Today’s trouble is enough for today.” “ And don't worry 'bout tomorrow, hey Sha-la-la-la-la-la, live for today”

lotsofpulp 10mo ago
That’s fine, but the incongruence comes when one expects unlimited supply of healthcare and a cash payment for decades in old age. Especially if one didn’t raise enough productive kids to pay for it, so then the question becomes if you’re not planning for tomorrow, why are others who are planning for tomorrow paying for your tomorrow?
- nchmy 10mo ago
  nice try ron paul
  - lotsofpulp 10mo ago
    Puzzling reply (assuming ron paul is being used as a pejorative), considering your adjacent comment seems to agree with my sentiment.
    - nchmy 10mo ago
      no, not even slightly. Im very much in favour of socializing all sorts of things. Ron paul was used to describe the sort of (seemingly) libertarian "leave me alone, i dont want to know you. please go die" views you espoused.
      - lotsofpulp 10mo ago
        I did not espouse such views. There exist resource constraints in reality which contradict the attitude presented by the post I responded to, unless they were willing to forego those socialized benefits.
- bombcar 10mo ago
  As the other comment pointed out; living for today doesn’t mean NOT planning for the future. The key is not assuming that some future date will bring happiness - that is something that has to be found each day.
nchmy 10mo ago
I was absolutely not advocating for not having any thought for the future, nor for "living in the moment". I was saying that you must do both - dont just slave away and expect that you'll live when you're retired (a lifestyle which makes it less likely that you would even live until retirement age, let alone be physically or even mentally capable of enjoying retirement). Instead, live in a way such that there it is meaningful while you do it, and it also prepares you for the future. Again, this would also have the benefit of showing your kids and others how to do this themselves.