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Being genuine here - what is heroic about those two things?

by csb6 9mo ago

eBombzor 9mo ago
It's sarcasm
- pesfandiar 9mo ago
  Poe's Law could very well apply here.
  - olalonde 9mo ago
    No.
anonu 9mo ago
I think they are being hyperbolic.
JumpCrisscross 9mo ago
> what is heroic about those two things? America threw off a king and founded a republic. Equality is a founding value and one we still respect. A rich man keeping his habits despite his wealth, and doing so next to the rest of us, is a role model for other up and comers. (The Romans had a similar thing about pastoral farmers. Every culture has its myth, and we like it when those in power try to live up to it.)
- tstrimple 9mo ago
  > Equality is a founding value and one we still respect. Easily stated by someone who was not a slave. Equality had fuck all to do with the founding of this country. Some people were *literaly* slaves. You *literally* could not vote unless you were a male land owner. Fuck this nonsense propaganda. Every bit of freedom in this country had to be fought for against this country and against the majority of white men. And we are still far, far from equal. Not until the vote of a Californian for President is equal in weight to someone from Wyoming. Not until the systemic structural advantage for white men in rural areas is eliminated. It's just such fucking bullshit to preach equality when our entire history has been a counter example.
  - samshine 9mo ago
    What a strange and naive post
    - frinxor 9mo ago
      I think it comes from the all-billionaires-are-evil mindset, which I see more and more of
      - cassepipe 9mo ago
        It might be a you-problem then because that is not what they were about is about and yet you are the one grouping them together. I am not saying categorization is bad, nor even that yours was unreasonable, but let's not forget the purpose of categories: Not having to think about difference, complexities You would have done better to address and/or counter their points
    - cassepipe 9mo ago
      I don't think so. They are deliberately ignoring the side of the coin they don't like (a non ethno-state based on freedom and equality who has had a positive role in the history of mankind) because they are afraid that we don't take into account the side of the coin they care about, namely that all those rights and laws are mostly paper until some decide to make them more real. If anything those perspectives need to be reunited rather than ignoring one for the other. The history of humanity is filled with horrors and humans have done the worst to other humans but it is also true that nowhere in history has humanity been, on average, safer. For that we have to thank all of those who believed in something better and made actual efforts to make a difference
  - javier123454321 9mo ago
    There's probably some truth in that resentful language, but if you grade in a curve of history what has been achieved by the idea of the United States and its focus on freedom and equality of opportunity has been miraculous. p.s. Because this probably matters to you, this is said by a non-white son of immigrants.
nrhrjrjrjtntbt 9mo ago
Nothing. We shouldn't dilute the term hero. Let's call it what it is "groundedness"
- deleted 9mo ago
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- MangoToupe 9mo ago
  > We shouldn't dilute the term hero Buddy you're fighting against 3000 years of dilution. Let people have their word
zmgsabst 9mo ago
I think they meant hero in the sense of archetype rather than heroic. But I agree with the person suggesting not diluting the word.
Lt_Riza_Hawkeye 9mo ago
I think they just meant it's very stereotypically american to drive a very walkable distance and eat McDonald's every day
- maccard 9mo ago
  A 7 minute drive for me is about a 10 minute walk. A 7 minute drive in America could be 5 miles!
  - twodave 9mo ago
    Or 10 depending on how late you are ;)
- pbh101 9mo ago
  I’m familiar with this neighborhood. If this were my commute I’d probably walk often. But: It’s 42 minutes by foot one way, which is on the longer end for most people. About half of it is pleasantly walkable, the rest looking like no trees and along a busy street. … For probably six months out of the year, the rest being too uncomfortably hot or windy/cold for most people. And he’s probably wearing a suit and leather shoes every day, so you risk wet/muddy shoes, road salt, or dripping in sweat or rain. Mess up your hair with a hat in the winter. And if you are going anywhere after, you’ll need a car anyway. The rest of Omaha is not walkable and quite hilly. And he’s old, quite old. He’s been old for decades. Some people can do 3.6mi/day in their 50s-80s but most will not. And his time value in literally among the… top ten in the world or so? And has been for decades? I say all this as a relatively extreme walking advocate: for most people in some locales (including most of America), it just doesn’t make sense, and this criticism is very silly. He’s Warren Buffet, so he could make this work if he wanted to. He could insist everyone come to him at his home while he wears pajamas. But it’s not unreasonable to drive this commute. And you can get a decent breakfast at McDonald’s too :D
  - bluecheese452 9mo ago
    He is extremely rich. All of these problems are easily solvable with the resources he has.
positron26 9mo ago
Not just relative to other billionaires, relative to the average American, he never went after get rich quick schemes, has a reputation less dirty, values life-long relationships more, and fell to not one of so many traps and dynamics that see many successful people trash their own legacy. The internet citizen is so often convinced that everyone with a high net worth is crooked, cheated to get where they are at, and would be even more morally corrupt if only they weren't so undeserving as to be incompetent of the ways to do so. So often the ambitious can believe that to succeed one must perform ultra sexy acts of innovation multiplied by inhuman hours of naive young team members. This pressure can drive us to be impatient, reckless, and unscrupulous. When we look at most startup CEOs who make it big, we say "don't try to emulate them" because we know they took huge risks and rolled at least a few good numbers. A person can emulate Warren Buffet. It's just patient and prudent, avoiding self-deception for decades. Yet it is excruciating. If not for Warren Buffet, so many would say, "It's not worth it" or "It will never work because you'll slip up." Being at least an anecdote that being honest and right can work out in the long run is a herculean counterweight against the vast traps of cynicism that can lead many to defeat themselves before they even try. It's tough to keep going or commit to that path, especially as your options keep going up. Few else tried because it takes an entire lifetime. Making it work saved a lot of people from a lot of imprudent choices and will continue to save more. That is heroic.
- coolewurst 9mo ago
  In his youth he was heavily inspired heavily by the book "1000 ways to make 1000 dollars", quite literally a get rich quick book. Also his bets on GEICO were probably a little impatient, reckless, and unscrupulous, but that's fine. He is one of the finest businessmen to study and certainly one of the more moral billionaires.
  - positron26 9mo ago
    Here comes the internet doing internet things. Happy 2026.
- JKCalhoun 9mo ago
  Not seen in a photograph with Jefferey Epstein. (yet)
xeromal 9mo ago
It's just a sarcastic take. I wouldn't read into it too much. If it didn't make you grin like a goofball, it failed and you should just move on to the next comment.
- quietsegfault 9mo ago
  On the one hand yes, on the other hand I would hope that if I was a bazillionaire that I would still keep the comforting habits that worked for me when I was a normie.
  - twodave 9mo ago
    I would argue “normie habits” are more depressing than this. Habits like stressing out about feeding your family. Counting the number of days until your money runs out and figuring out what odd jobs you can cover the shortfall with. Not going to the doctor because of the cost. For many people, stopping by McDonalds inspires guilt, and not just because it’s a bad nutritional choice, but rather because that’s how thin the margins are. I still remember all of these things about my 20s. Now, a couple decades later and by no means super-wealthy, I will happily ignore grocery prices, pay for specialist care and sort of just eyeball my checking account every week or so to make sure I don’t need to shuffle something around. Not dogging anyone who wants to enjoy the “simple” things in life, and I’m probably one of the more pro-billionaire people on this site (which is hilarious given what this site is really about), but I think most of us are out of touch with what the average American experiences. Midnight Taco Bell runs are an escape for those folks as much as they are a guilty pleasure. I’m happy that for me they can just be the latter.
JKCalhoun 9mo ago
It's down to earth. We expect the ultra-wealthy to eat at the French Laundry in California, to have chauffeurs, to live in New York penthouses…

Being genuine here - what is heroic about those two things?

by csb6 9mo ago

Being genuine here - what is heroic about those two things?

eBombzor 9mo ago

It's sarcasm

pesfandiar 9mo ago
Poe's Law could very well apply here.
- olalonde 9mo ago
  No.

anonu 9mo ago

I think they are being hyperbolic.

JumpCrisscross 9mo ago

> what is heroic about those two things? America threw off a king and founded a republic. Equality is a founding value and one we still respect. A rich man keeping his habits despite his wealth, and doing so next to the rest of us, is a role model for other up and comers. (The Romans had a similar thing about pastoral farmers. Every culture has its myth, and we like it when those in power try to live up to it.)

tstrimple 9mo ago
> Equality is a founding value and one we still respect. Easily stated by someone who was not a slave. Equality had fuck all to do with the founding of this country. Some people were *literaly* slaves. You *literally* could not vote unless you were a male land owner. Fuck this nonsense propaganda. Every bit of freedom in this country had to be fought for against this country and against the majority of white men. And we are still far, far from equal. Not until the vote of a Californian for President is equal in weight to someone from Wyoming. Not until the systemic structural advantage for white men in rural areas is eliminated. It's just such fucking bullshit to preach equality when our entire history has been a counter example.
- samshine 9mo ago
  What a strange and naive post
  - frinxor 9mo ago
    I think it comes from the all-billionaires-are-evil mindset, which I see more and more of
    - cassepipe 9mo ago
      It might be a you-problem then because that is not what they were about is about and yet you are the one grouping them together. I am not saying categorization is bad, nor even that yours was unreasonable, but let's not forget the purpose of categories: Not having to think about difference, complexities You would have done better to address and/or counter their points
  - cassepipe 9mo ago
    I don't think so. They are deliberately ignoring the side of the coin they don't like (a non ethno-state based on freedom and equality who has had a positive role in the history of mankind) because they are afraid that we don't take into account the side of the coin they care about, namely that all those rights and laws are mostly paper until some decide to make them more real. If anything those perspectives need to be reunited rather than ignoring one for the other. The history of humanity is filled with horrors and humans have done the worst to other humans but it is also true that nowhere in history has humanity been, on average, safer. For that we have to thank all of those who believed in something better and made actual efforts to make a difference
- javier123454321 9mo ago
  There's probably some truth in that resentful language, but if you grade in a curve of history what has been achieved by the idea of the United States and its focus on freedom and equality of opportunity has been miraculous. p.s. Because this probably matters to you, this is said by a non-white son of immigrants.

nrhrjrjrjtntbt 9mo ago

Nothing. We shouldn't dilute the term hero. Let's call it what it is "groundedness"

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MangoToupe 9mo ago
> We shouldn't dilute the term hero Buddy you're fighting against 3000 years of dilution. Let people have their word

zmgsabst 9mo ago

I think they meant hero in the sense of archetype rather than heroic. But I agree with the person suggesting not diluting the word.

Lt_Riza_Hawkeye 9mo ago

I think they just meant it's very stereotypically american to drive a very walkable distance and eat McDonald's every day

maccard 9mo ago
A 7 minute drive for me is about a 10 minute walk. A 7 minute drive in America could be 5 miles!
- twodave 9mo ago
  Or 10 depending on how late you are ;)
pbh101 9mo ago
I’m familiar with this neighborhood. If this were my commute I’d probably walk often. But: It’s 42 minutes by foot one way, which is on the longer end for most people. About half of it is pleasantly walkable, the rest looking like no trees and along a busy street. … For probably six months out of the year, the rest being too uncomfortably hot or windy/cold for most people. And he’s probably wearing a suit and leather shoes every day, so you risk wet/muddy shoes, road salt, or dripping in sweat or rain. Mess up your hair with a hat in the winter. And if you are going anywhere after, you’ll need a car anyway. The rest of Omaha is not walkable and quite hilly. And he’s old, quite old. He’s been old for decades. Some people can do 3.6mi/day in their 50s-80s but most will not. And his time value in literally among the… top ten in the world or so? And has been for decades? I say all this as a relatively extreme walking advocate: for most people in some locales (including most of America), it just doesn’t make sense, and this criticism is very silly. He’s Warren Buffet, so he could make this work if he wanted to. He could insist everyone come to him at his home while he wears pajamas. But it’s not unreasonable to drive this commute. And you can get a decent breakfast at McDonald’s too :D
- bluecheese452 9mo ago
  He is extremely rich. All of these problems are easily solvable with the resources he has.

positron26 9mo ago

Not just relative to other billionaires, relative to the average American, he never went after get rich quick schemes, has a reputation less dirty, values life-long relationships more, and fell to not one of so many traps and dynamics that see many successful people trash their own legacy. The internet citizen is so often convinced that everyone with a high net worth is crooked, cheated to get where they are at, and would be even more morally corrupt if only they weren't so undeserving as to be incompetent of the ways to do so. So often the ambitious can believe that to succeed one must perform ultra sexy acts of innovation multiplied by inhuman hours of naive young team members. This pressure can drive us to be impatient, reckless, and unscrupulous. When we look at most startup CEOs who make it big, we say "don't try to emulate them" because we know they took huge risks and rolled at least a few good numbers. A person can emulate Warren Buffet. It's just patient and prudent, avoiding self-deception for decades. Yet it is excruciating. If not for Warren Buffet, so many would say, "It's not worth it" or "It will never work because you'll slip up." Being at least an anecdote that being honest and right can work out in the long run is a herculean counterweight against the vast traps of cynicism that can lead many to defeat themselves before they even try. It's tough to keep going or commit to that path, especially as your options keep going up. Few else tried because it takes an entire lifetime. Making it work saved a lot of people from a lot of imprudent choices and will continue to save more. That is heroic.

coolewurst 9mo ago
In his youth he was heavily inspired heavily by the book "1000 ways to make 1000 dollars", quite literally a get rich quick book. Also his bets on GEICO were probably a little impatient, reckless, and unscrupulous, but that's fine. He is one of the finest businessmen to study and certainly one of the more moral billionaires.
- positron26 9mo ago
  Here comes the internet doing internet things. Happy 2026.
JKCalhoun 9mo ago
Not seen in a photograph with Jefferey Epstein. (yet)

xeromal 9mo ago

It's just a sarcastic take. I wouldn't read into it too much. If it didn't make you grin like a goofball, it failed and you should just move on to the next comment.

quietsegfault 9mo ago
On the one hand yes, on the other hand I would hope that if I was a bazillionaire that I would still keep the comforting habits that worked for me when I was a normie.
- twodave 9mo ago
  I would argue “normie habits” are more depressing than this. Habits like stressing out about feeding your family. Counting the number of days until your money runs out and figuring out what odd jobs you can cover the shortfall with. Not going to the doctor because of the cost. For many people, stopping by McDonalds inspires guilt, and not just because it’s a bad nutritional choice, but rather because that’s how thin the margins are. I still remember all of these things about my 20s. Now, a couple decades later and by no means super-wealthy, I will happily ignore grocery prices, pay for specialist care and sort of just eyeball my checking account every week or so to make sure I don’t need to shuffle something around. Not dogging anyone who wants to enjoy the “simple” things in life, and I’m probably one of the more pro-billionaire people on this site (which is hilarious given what this site is really about), but I think most of us are out of touch with what the average American experiences. Midnight Taco Bell runs are an escape for those folks as much as they are a guilty pleasure. I’m happy that for me they can just be the latter.

JKCalhoun 9mo ago

It's down to earth. We expect the ultra-wealthy to eat at the French Laundry in California, to have chauffeurs, to live in New York penthouses…