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Those brands are not immune at all. Everybody I know (who isn't in tech) has a negative opinion of these brands.

bigbadfeline 10mo ago
> Everybody I know... has a negative opinion of these brands. Not uncommon but they still use them, that's how monopolies work. I mean, people do hate monopolies but that changes absolutely nothing. The network effect is real and cannot be broken without a concerted media push, which is another can of worms I'd rather not open this year.
- llmslave2 10mo ago
  Something can be both flawed and hated, yet still useful, and still good enough. There is also a cost to switching products, and that has nothing to do with monopolies. Unfortunately the M word is thrown around to describe basically any company with a significant market share and it totally dilutes the meaning of the term.
  - awesome_dude 10mo ago
    This is fascinating - your complaint appears to be that someone used the term "near-monopoly" and you claim that its being used to describe companies with a "significant market share" - which is the actual definition of the term.
    - llmslave2 10mo ago
      > This is actually textbook monopoly stuff ? > monopoly: the exclusive possession or control of the supply of or trade in a commodity or service. ??? A monopoly in an economic sense is clearly defined. It is not "significant market share". The person who started this discussion claimed it was "textbook monopoly stuff".
      - awesome_dude 10mo ago
        The actual words said were "Near monopoly" Why the dishonest misrepresentation?
        llmslave2 10mo ago
        "This is actually textbook monopoly stuff" is a direct quote... I'm not gonna argue on New Years Eve. Hope you have a great 2026 <3
      - thfuran 10mo ago
        In an economic sense, any company with enough market share and control to manipulate market prices or limit its own competition has monopoly power and a pure monopoly is the sort of 100% absolute monopoly that people like to derail conversations over.

> Everybody I know... has a negative opinion of these brands. Not uncommon but they still use them, that's how monopolies work. I mean, people do hate monopolies but that changes absolutely nothing. The network effect is real and cannot be broken without a concerted media push, which is another can of worms I'd rather not open this year.

llmslave2 10mo ago
Something can be both flawed and hated, yet still useful, and still good enough. There is also a cost to switching products, and that has nothing to do with monopolies. Unfortunately the M word is thrown around to describe basically any company with a significant market share and it totally dilutes the meaning of the term.
- awesome_dude 10mo ago
  This is fascinating - your complaint appears to be that someone used the term "near-monopoly" and you claim that its being used to describe companies with a "significant market share" - which is the actual definition of the term.
  - llmslave2 10mo ago
    > This is actually textbook monopoly stuff ? > monopoly: the exclusive possession or control of the supply of or trade in a commodity or service. ??? A monopoly in an economic sense is clearly defined. It is not "significant market share". The person who started this discussion claimed it was "textbook monopoly stuff".
    - awesome_dude 10mo ago
      The actual words said were "Near monopoly" Why the dishonest misrepresentation?
      - llmslave2 10mo ago
        "This is actually textbook monopoly stuff" is a direct quote... I'm not gonna argue on New Years Eve. Hope you have a great 2026 <3
    - thfuran 10mo ago
      In an economic sense, any company with enough market share and control to manipulate market prices or limit its own competition has monopoly power and a pure monopoly is the sort of 100% absolute monopoly that people like to derail conversations over.