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>So this cannot be a differentiating aspect. Now explain that nuance to an 80 yr old law maker who hates the damn email.

AshamedCaptain 9mo ago
For the record, that is exactly my point . I do not want yet another sword of Damocles for websites, even less if it depends on the mood of a clueless judge.
seszett 9mo ago
Not to say that they are technically literate, but the average age of French lawmakers (which are just the members of parliament) is 50 years old. It's actually the same as the average age of voting-age French citizens, so they are quite representative on this regard.
potato3732842 9mo ago
These 80yo lawmakers have kids and grandkids and advisers. They know how social media works. They hate social media because it gives people the power to talk in public about them with near impunity. They want to go back to the old days when if you wrote a letter to the newspaper about potential corruption or wrongdoing among the "more equal animals" you'd get pulled over for a light out whenever you went through that town for the next 20yr.
- skydhash 9mo ago
  > They hate social media because it gives people the power to talk in public about them with near impunity. If you think you have even near impunity on social media, I have a bridge to sell you. Even a town to go with it.
  - potato3732842 9mo ago
    >If you think you have even near impunity on social media, I have a bridge to sell you. Even a town to go with it. I specifically said "near" impunity. If you do something bad enough they'll come after you but even then if your gripes are legitimate that's likely to amplify it. Surely you're not honestly claiming that there is not a significant practical difference between modern internet criticism and the old ways when messaging that could reach the broad public was far thoroughly gated by people and things that had more stake in the power structure.
    - skydhash 9mo ago
      I wouldn’t say it was gated. More like it was costly. And people having the means to do so was a very small set and prone to agree with the status quo. But even now, a lot of messages are lost on the internet. And the internet is only decentralized for messages propagation, not for access.
      - potato3732842 9mo ago
        Fractionally gated is still gated. At some point a difference in quantity is a difference in quality.

AshamedCaptain 9mo ago

For the record, that is exactly my point . I do not want yet another sword of Damocles for websites, even less if it depends on the mood of a clueless judge.

seszett 9mo ago

Not to say that they are technically literate, but the average age of French lawmakers (which are just the members of parliament) is 50 years old. It's actually the same as the average age of voting-age French citizens, so they are quite representative on this regard.

potato3732842 9mo ago

These 80yo lawmakers have kids and grandkids and advisers. They know how social media works. They hate social media because it gives people the power to talk in public about them with near impunity. They want to go back to the old days when if you wrote a letter to the newspaper about potential corruption or wrongdoing among the "more equal animals" you'd get pulled over for a light out whenever you went through that town for the next 20yr.

skydhash 9mo ago
> They hate social media because it gives people the power to talk in public about them with near impunity. If you think you have even near impunity on social media, I have a bridge to sell you. Even a town to go with it.
- potato3732842 9mo ago
  >If you think you have even near impunity on social media, I have a bridge to sell you. Even a town to go with it. I specifically said "near" impunity. If you do something bad enough they'll come after you but even then if your gripes are legitimate that's likely to amplify it. Surely you're not honestly claiming that there is not a significant practical difference between modern internet criticism and the old ways when messaging that could reach the broad public was far thoroughly gated by people and things that had more stake in the power structure.
  - skydhash 9mo ago
    I wouldn’t say it was gated. More like it was costly. And people having the means to do so was a very small set and prone to agree with the status quo. But even now, a lot of messages are lost on the internet. And the internet is only decentralized for messages propagation, not for access.
    - potato3732842 9mo ago
      Fractionally gated is still gated. At some point a difference in quantity is a difference in quality.