> You're arguing against a strawman. There is no strawman. These are Tesla's own claims and Telsa's own timelines. No one forced them into making these false c

> You're arguing against a strawman. There is no strawman. These are Tesla's own claims and Telsa's own timelines. No one forced them into making these false claims. > Of course Elon doesn't meet his timelines, everyone knows that. The reality is he has lied to you constantly but you're still willing to make excuses for him. If there's always a new excuse ready for Dear Leader then that's cult thinking.