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Reminder to all Capitalists: The earth is a finite resource

by QuantumSeed 9mo ago

christkv 9mo ago
Cuba is still there if you want to live in your utopia.
- hsuduebc2 9mo ago
  Weird to see McCarthy roleplay in 2025.
- unethical_ban 9mo ago
  Come on, really? Criticism of current implementations of capitalism != Advocacy of the total abolition of markets.
  - christkv 9mo ago
    That is the zeitgeist. American leftists like the democratic socialists talk loudly about being like Scandinavia but are going to visit Cuba and Venezuela. European socialists seems to think there is an unlimited amount of tax that can be raised from people who struggle to make 1500 EUR a month in countries like Spain while the EU political policy has been a major factor in the destruction of their purchasing power over the last 5 years. They can't buy homes, they don't get raises. The state takes in more than ever. If anything you can argue Europe has too little capitalism going on and too much state capitalism. No implementation would ever be good enough. We know the current system in Europe at least is collapsing because of the unbearable cost of the welfare system plus growth stagnation not because of "billionaires" (and no amount of raising taxes on the young generation or the "rich" will fix it). But it's easy to avoid dealing with the real economic problems and just blame something external being it "billionaires", the 1%, Trump, Putin, China etc (pick your favourite poison). In this forum pretty much everyone is privileged in the country they live compared to the normal citizen. It's easy to cosplay about "utopia" when it has little direct impact on you or you can just move away to another place. We are lead by Donkeys.
    - p_ing 9mo ago
      > They can't buy homes, they don't get raises. How is this any different from the "average" American worker? Home buying is very difficult, raises are generally flat or don't meet inflation.
ultrarunner 9mo ago
“In the long run, we’re all dead”
- Herring 9mo ago
  I see the pro human extinction club is still alive and kicking.
andsoitis 9mo ago
> The earth is a finite resource The earth is our only home.
didgetmaster 9mo ago
So...somehow communists and socialists are better stewards of the Earth's resources???

Reminder to all Capitalists: The earth is a finite resource

christkv 9mo ago

Cuba is still there if you want to live in your utopia.

hsuduebc2 9mo ago
Weird to see McCarthy roleplay in 2025.
unethical_ban 9mo ago
Come on, really? Criticism of current implementations of capitalism != Advocacy of the total abolition of markets.
- christkv 9mo ago
  That is the zeitgeist. American leftists like the democratic socialists talk loudly about being like Scandinavia but are going to visit Cuba and Venezuela. European socialists seems to think there is an unlimited amount of tax that can be raised from people who struggle to make 1500 EUR a month in countries like Spain while the EU political policy has been a major factor in the destruction of their purchasing power over the last 5 years. They can't buy homes, they don't get raises. The state takes in more than ever. If anything you can argue Europe has too little capitalism going on and too much state capitalism. No implementation would ever be good enough. We know the current system in Europe at least is collapsing because of the unbearable cost of the welfare system plus growth stagnation not because of "billionaires" (and no amount of raising taxes on the young generation or the "rich" will fix it). But it's easy to avoid dealing with the real economic problems and just blame something external being it "billionaires", the 1%, Trump, Putin, China etc (pick your favourite poison). In this forum pretty much everyone is privileged in the country they live compared to the normal citizen. It's easy to cosplay about "utopia" when it has little direct impact on you or you can just move away to another place. We are lead by Donkeys.
  - p_ing 9mo ago
    > They can't buy homes, they don't get raises. How is this any different from the "average" American worker? Home buying is very difficult, raises are generally flat or don't meet inflation.

ultrarunner 9mo ago

“In the long run, we’re all dead”

Herring 9mo ago
I see the pro human extinction club is still alive and kicking.

andsoitis 9mo ago

> The earth is a finite resource The earth is our only home.

didgetmaster 9mo ago

So...somehow communists and socialists are better stewards of the Earth's resources???