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Dude, nobody with a brain thinks he would have succeeded without the subsidies and support, but that still doesn't invalidate his achievements. It's really ann

• ben_w 10mo ago
  > the truth is that he's accomplished some crazy things. I would argue: yes, to the extent that a leader gets to be described as having "accomplished" the work of the team. It's not nothing, to be a visionary and charismatic leader! But at the same time… when the reality distortion field seems to be in the process of transforming into a cult of personality, I think it's fair to ask if he'll ever again do something like a new SpaceX or a new Tesla, either as a maker or an investor. I'm not sure when the cut-off between the two states, RDF and cult, would be. Not unreasonable to say it was when he libelled the cave diver, but there are other times it could've been.