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Why are you bringing in Manusmriti when the topic in question is Bhagwad Gita? Filling in your comment with Manusmriti doesn't make your point valid. Now abou

Why are you bringing in Manusmriti when the topic in question is Bhagwad Gita? Filling in your comment with Manusmriti doesn't make your point valid. Now about your comments about Gita. Bhagwad Gita 18:47 isn't about caste. Neither 4:13 nor 18:41-43 support your claim of "that it is actually a sin to perform the duties (dharma) of a caste that you aren't born into" Bhagwad Gita 4:13[0] and 18:41[1] if anything can be interpreted as varna based on qualities rather than being fixed at birth. Even bad faith interpretation of these verses does not support your claim. You come across as bad faith. [0]: https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/chapter/4/verse/13/ https://www.holy-bhagavad-gita.org/chapter/4/verse/13/ [1]: https://vivekavani.com/b18v41/ https://vivekavani.com/b18v41/

pkphilip 9mo ago
So are you claiming that Manusmriti is not valid? Manusmriti explains the rules of how castes interact. I have already given specific quotes from the Bhagwad Gita about Dharma being tied to caste.. you call it varna but even the sankaracharya from Govardhan Mutt says there is really not much of a difference between varna and jati. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_2ckFp9yPk&t=9s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_2ckFp9yPk&t=9s Just saying that I am saying this in "bad faith" doesn't make it so.
- leosanchez 9mo ago
  > So are you claiming that Manusmriti is not valid? Another bad faith argument. The topic in question is Bhagwat Gita not Manusmriti. Filling 3/4 of your comment with quotes from Manusmriti makes you disingenuous to say the least. And yes, Manusmriti is indeed irrelevant for most Hindus. > I have already given specific quotes from the Bhagwad Gita about Dharma being tied to caste. Which I have replied to and don't support your initial claim, even with bad faith interpretation. > sankaracharya from Govardhan Mutt I don't know who this person is, But the articles I linked in my previous comment interpret Varna tied to abilities not based on birth. Is there a source of truth which states which jati belongs to which Varna? There are many of castes which do not cleanly belong one Varna including my own. > Just saying that I am saying this in "bad faith" doesn't make it so. To remind you of your initial claim > that it is actually a sin to perform the duties (dharma) of a caste that you aren't born into > which is the crux of the argument that Krishna made to Arjuna in the Bhagwat Gita. To justify your claims, you had to refer to quotes from Manusmriti. That is why I called you bad faith.

pkphilip 9mo ago

So are you claiming that Manusmriti is not valid? Manusmriti explains the rules of how castes interact. I have already given specific quotes from the Bhagwad Gita about Dharma being tied to caste.. you call it varna but even the sankaracharya from Govardhan Mutt says there is really not much of a difference between varna and jati. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_2ckFp9yPk&t=9s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_2ckFp9yPk&t=9s Just saying that I am saying this in "bad faith" doesn't make it so.

leosanchez 9mo ago
> So are you claiming that Manusmriti is not valid? Another bad faith argument. The topic in question is Bhagwat Gita not Manusmriti. Filling 3/4 of your comment with quotes from Manusmriti makes you disingenuous to say the least. And yes, Manusmriti is indeed irrelevant for most Hindus. > I have already given specific quotes from the Bhagwad Gita about Dharma being tied to caste. Which I have replied to and don't support your initial claim, even with bad faith interpretation. > sankaracharya from Govardhan Mutt I don't know who this person is, But the articles I linked in my previous comment interpret Varna tied to abilities not based on birth. Is there a source of truth which states which jati belongs to which Varna? There are many of castes which do not cleanly belong one Varna including my own. > Just saying that I am saying this in "bad faith" doesn't make it so. To remind you of your initial claim > that it is actually a sin to perform the duties (dharma) of a caste that you aren't born into > which is the crux of the argument that Krishna made to Arjuna in the Bhagwat Gita. To justify your claims, you had to refer to quotes from Manusmriti. That is why I called you bad faith.