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An Italian citizen who was debanked essentially because Trump didn't like her: https://english.elpais.com/international/2025-12-28/the-complicated-life-of-fran

by hkt 10mo ago

An Italian citizen who was debanked essentially because Trump didn't like her: https://english.elpais.com/international/2025-12-28/the-complicated-life-of-francesca-albanese-a-rising-figure-in-italy-but-barred-from-every-bank-by-trumps-sanctions.html https://english.elpais.com/international/2025-12-28/the-comp... When it comes to this kind of thing, an injury to one is an injury to all and we need to not tolerate it. At minimum, we need regulations guaranteeing that Visa and MasterCard, as well as participating banks, aren't allowed to debank anyone without judicial oversight. Make the same true of apps: call it a Banking Access Tribunal.

neoromantique 10mo ago
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- sschueller 10mo ago
  First of all you need to provide some proof because being against a genocide is not antisemitic. Hating Israel is not antisemitic even if Bibi wants you to believe that. Second of all, what happened to free speech? In fact I can list several actual antisemites currently operating freely in the US political discourse who are gathering larger and larger audiences. Why aren't they being sanctioned?
- jeroenhd 10mo ago
  It doesn't. I don't know if she's an antisemite, but unless the bank dumps her for being one and an Italian judge agrees that they're allowed to for that reason, this is a clear result of foreign political influence. Calling the UN special rapporteur for the Palestinian territories a "vile antisemite" sounds a lot like trolling, though.
raverbashing 10mo ago
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- andrepd 10mo ago
  Irrelevant. I'd prefer laws and the courts to decide punishment for transgressions, rather than the arbitrary whims of a quasi-fascist. I'm old fashioned, I know.
  - jjgreen 10mo ago
    quasi?
- nkrisc 10mo ago
  Wait until it’s you for some arbitrary reason.
- monooso 10mo ago
  Maybe this will help you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_They_Came https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_They_Came
  - raverbashing 10mo ago
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    - andrepd 10mo ago
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      - raverbashing 10mo ago
        You're the one advocating to help people whom not even their neighbours who share the same religion want nothing to do with it so I think you're the one who's joking
        cromka 10mo ago
        Just looking at the punctuation here makes it easy to guess you're fuming. No rational arguments, twisting the narration, moving goalposts and then frustrated because it doesn't work here, on HN. You might want to find another outlet for that, why kick up the blood pressure this much?
kjksf 10mo ago
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- csomar 10mo ago
  > that it has anything to do with Trump That's an irrelevant detail right? The point is, she was debanked because someone in the US didn't like her, regardless of whom this person is.
- savant2 10mo ago
  So Trump can support war criminals like Netanyahu, but when someone says Israel shouldn't colonize Palestine and practice appartheid, she becomes a mouthpiece of Hamas? Get your facts together.
- andrepd 10mo ago
  Condemning the 7/Oct attacks as an unacceptable act of terrorism is "being a mouthpiece of Hamas"!!! Fucking _disgusting_, and many stronger words I'm trying my best to contain. We're reaching levels of wretchedness that I've never thought possible. Truly no shame anymore.
  - tdeck 10mo ago
    There wasn't shame before. Just a sense that they couldn't push the envelope too much without losing US support. Now that has been shattered.
  - compsciphd 10mo ago
    https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/10/gaza-un-experts-decry-bombing-hospitals-and-schools-crimes-against-humanity https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/10/gaza-un-expe... This is her statement essentially saying Israel bombed a hospital that we now know as close to a fact as we can, that they did not and that in fact it was a palestinian rocket that fell on the hospital. But lets say we can't know that for a fact. She was still parroting Hamas's line without any ability to validate the statement. This statement amongst many demonstrates that UN "Experts" have zero credibility in the statements they make.

by hkt 10mo ago

neoromantique 10mo ago

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sschueller 10mo ago
First of all you need to provide some proof because being against a genocide is not antisemitic. Hating Israel is not antisemitic even if Bibi wants you to believe that. Second of all, what happened to free speech? In fact I can list several actual antisemites currently operating freely in the US political discourse who are gathering larger and larger audiences. Why aren't they being sanctioned?
jeroenhd 10mo ago
It doesn't. I don't know if she's an antisemite, but unless the bank dumps her for being one and an Italian judge agrees that they're allowed to for that reason, this is a clear result of foreign political influence. Calling the UN special rapporteur for the Palestinian territories a "vile antisemite" sounds a lot like trolling, though.

raverbashing 10mo ago

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andrepd 10mo ago
Irrelevant. I'd prefer laws and the courts to decide punishment for transgressions, rather than the arbitrary whims of a quasi-fascist. I'm old fashioned, I know.
- jjgreen 10mo ago
  quasi?
nkrisc 10mo ago
Wait until it’s you for some arbitrary reason.
monooso 10mo ago
Maybe this will help you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_They_Came https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_They_Came
- raverbashing 10mo ago
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  - andrepd 10mo ago
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    - raverbashing 10mo ago
      You're the one advocating to help people whom not even their neighbours who share the same religion want nothing to do with it so I think you're the one who's joking
      - cromka 10mo ago
        Just looking at the punctuation here makes it easy to guess you're fuming. No rational arguments, twisting the narration, moving goalposts and then frustrated because it doesn't work here, on HN. You might want to find another outlet for that, why kick up the blood pressure this much?

kjksf 10mo ago

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csomar 10mo ago
> that it has anything to do with Trump That's an irrelevant detail right? The point is, she was debanked because someone in the US didn't like her, regardless of whom this person is.
savant2 10mo ago
So Trump can support war criminals like Netanyahu, but when someone says Israel shouldn't colonize Palestine and practice appartheid, she becomes a mouthpiece of Hamas? Get your facts together.
andrepd 10mo ago
Condemning the 7/Oct attacks as an unacceptable act of terrorism is "being a mouthpiece of Hamas"!!! Fucking _disgusting_, and many stronger words I'm trying my best to contain. We're reaching levels of wretchedness that I've never thought possible. Truly no shame anymore.
- tdeck 10mo ago
  There wasn't shame before. Just a sense that they couldn't push the envelope too much without losing US support. Now that has been shattered.
- compsciphd 10mo ago
  https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/10/gaza-un-experts-decry-bombing-hospitals-and-schools-crimes-against-humanity https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/10/gaza-un-expe... This is her statement essentially saying Israel bombed a hospital that we now know as close to a fact as we can, that they did not and that in fact it was a palestinian rocket that fell on the hospital. But lets say we can't know that for a fact. She was still parroting Hamas's line without any ability to validate the statement. This statement amongst many demonstrates that UN "Experts" have zero credibility in the statements they make.