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Still using Firefox – but not because of its vision

46 points by ig0r0 9mo ago

xeonmc 9mo ago
Mullvad?
pvdebbe 9mo ago
I'm still using Firefox and loving it actually. Other browser engines don't support "zoom text only" anymore so my options are limited. And to my knowledge, there's nothing as good as uBlock Origin for those webkit/blink based browsers... Yes, Firefox constantly introduces new degradation in UX but so far they always offer opt-out mechanisms for even the most obscure things...
shawn_w 9mo ago
Ublock and not being Google are Firefox's killer features for me.
- thedanbob 9mo ago
  Same. I tried LibreWolf for a while but as TA mentioned, it required too much tuning. (It also isn't signed on macOS so installing has extra hoops.) I'm on Waterfox now and it's just about right for me.
  - setopt 9mo ago
    Does Waterfox support Firefox Sync? Their web page is a bit sparse on details on how it differs from Firefox.
    - mcsniff 9mo ago
      It's right on their support page. They also have a search function, just type in "Sync" and you'll get there. https://www.waterfox.com/support/how-do-i-set-sync-my-computer/ https://www.waterfox.com/support/how-do-i-set-sync-my-comput... Also, no, the page is not "sparse" on how it differs from Firefox, it's clearly explained https://www.waterfox.com/#why-waterfox https://www.waterfox.com/#why-waterfox
- rainsford 9mo ago
  I like several features of Firefox, particularly containers as the article mentions. But honestly, not being Google would be enough for me all by itself. I have my issues with Google itself, but even if Google was perfect I'd still be opposed to a large Internet content company also having monopoly control over the client side browser experience. That end-to-end control is just too tempting to abuse without some reasonable alternative that people can switch to.
Kim_Bruning 9mo ago
The <Tree Style Tabs> extension is what's keeping me on Firefox atm.
- remark5396 9mo ago
  For me, it was Sidebery, too.
Decabytes 9mo ago
I’m using Zen which is based on Firefox and I have been enjoying the experience
HelloUsername 9mo ago
Does anyone know if it's natively possible yet in FF to have split tabs? So viewing two tabs horizontally next to each other in one window. I know there's an official extension, but it's not really the same https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/side-view/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/side-view/
- Xerox9213 9mo ago
  This sure would be nice. I almost always have two windows going, and drag tabs back and forth between them.
- rebelwebmaster 9mo ago
  It's available for testing in Nightly builds at the moment.
- MurizS 9mo ago
  Native since v146, about:config -> browser.tabs.splitView.enabled
cainxinth 9mo ago
My lifetime browser journey on x86: Netscape → Internet Explorer → Firefox → Chrome → Firefox. I switched to Chrome because it’s fast. I switched away because of Manifest v3. I’ve been back on Firefox for about six months now. It’s fine and very impressive give its resources relative to the market leader, but it still lags behind in speed. It’s not even entirely their fault, as so much of the web is now optimized specifically for Chrome, but it is noticeable to me.
sorcercode 9mo ago
Might I also suggest the Firefox addon "Container Traffic Control" - A Firefox addon I built to make it even easier to use Containers https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ctc/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ctc/ When you start to use Containers (feature the Author of the article talks about), you'll start to want a little more control in how the containers open especially for sites that you allow on more than one container Source came be found here: https://github.com/kaushikgopal/ff-container-traffic-control https://github.com/kaushikgopal/ff-container-traffic-control
fumblebee 9mo ago
I switched to Firefox after Chrome stopped supporting uBlock Origin, for all the slights I've seen on HN lately with the direction of the product I've been very happy. No regrets.

46 points by ig0r0 9mo ago

Mullvad?

I'm still using Firefox and loving it actually. Other browser engines don't support "zoom text only" anymore so my options are limited. And to my knowledge, there's nothing as good as uBlock Origin for those webkit/blink based browsers... Yes, Firefox constantly introduces new degradation in UX but so far they always offer opt-out mechanisms for even the most obscure things...

shawn_w 9mo ago

Ublock and not being Google are Firefox's killer features for me.

thedanbob 9mo ago
Same. I tried LibreWolf for a while but as TA mentioned, it required too much tuning. (It also isn't signed on macOS so installing has extra hoops.) I'm on Waterfox now and it's just about right for me.
- setopt 9mo ago
  Does Waterfox support Firefox Sync? Their web page is a bit sparse on details on how it differs from Firefox.
  - mcsniff 9mo ago
    It's right on their support page. They also have a search function, just type in "Sync" and you'll get there. https://www.waterfox.com/support/how-do-i-set-sync-my-computer/ https://www.waterfox.com/support/how-do-i-set-sync-my-comput... Also, no, the page is not "sparse" on how it differs from Firefox, it's clearly explained https://www.waterfox.com/#why-waterfox https://www.waterfox.com/#why-waterfox
rainsford 9mo ago
I like several features of Firefox, particularly containers as the article mentions. But honestly, not being Google would be enough for me all by itself. I have my issues with Google itself, but even if Google was perfect I'd still be opposed to a large Internet content company also having monopoly control over the client side browser experience. That end-to-end control is just too tempting to abuse without some reasonable alternative that people can switch to.

Kim_Bruning 9mo ago

The <Tree Style Tabs> extension is what's keeping me on Firefox atm.

remark5396 9mo ago
For me, it was Sidebery, too.

Decabytes 9mo ago

I’m using Zen which is based on Firefox and I have been enjoying the experience

HelloUsername 9mo ago

Does anyone know if it's natively possible yet in FF to have split tabs? So viewing two tabs horizontally next to each other in one window. I know there's an official extension, but it's not really the same https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/side-view/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/side-view/

Xerox9213 9mo ago
This sure would be nice. I almost always have two windows going, and drag tabs back and forth between them.
rebelwebmaster 9mo ago
It's available for testing in Nightly builds at the moment.
MurizS 9mo ago
Native since v146, about:config -> browser.tabs.splitView.enabled

cainxinth 9mo ago

My lifetime browser journey on x86: Netscape → Internet Explorer → Firefox → Chrome → Firefox. I switched to Chrome because it’s fast. I switched away because of Manifest v3. I’ve been back on Firefox for about six months now. It’s fine and very impressive give its resources relative to the market leader, but it still lags behind in speed. It’s not even entirely their fault, as so much of the web is now optimized specifically for Chrome, but it is noticeable to me.

sorcercode 9mo ago

Might I also suggest the Firefox addon "Container Traffic Control" - A Firefox addon I built to make it even easier to use Containers https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ctc/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ctc/ When you start to use Containers (feature the Author of the article talks about), you'll start to want a little more control in how the containers open especially for sites that you allow on more than one container Source came be found here: https://github.com/kaushikgopal/ff-container-traffic-control https://github.com/kaushikgopal/ff-container-traffic-control

fumblebee 9mo ago

I switched to Firefox after Chrome stopped supporting uBlock Origin, for all the slights I've seen on HN lately with the direction of the product I've been very happy. No regrets.