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I am the one who wrote the initial comment. I haven't downvotted anyone. So the downvotes are from others. By the way, you claim that I am wrong - but you prov

by pkphilip 10mo ago

I am the one who wrote the initial comment. I haven't downvotted anyone. So the downvotes are from others. By the way, you claim that I am wrong - but you provide no evidence whatsoever. My claim is very simple. In Hinduism, dharma is prescribed based on the person's caste and so also the punishments. Source: https://www.wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/manusmriti-with-the-commentary-of-medhatithi https://www.wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/manusmriti-with-the-... Providing a link to Manusmriti as evidence. Before you trash it, saying that the Manusmriti is not relevant - may i point out that people have gone to jail even recently for "disrespecting" the Manusmiriti. https://www.siasat.com/13-bhu-students-sent-to-jail-over-event-critiquing-manusmriti-3155986/ https://www.siasat.com/13-bhu-students-sent-to-jail-over-eve...

leosanchez 10mo ago
> Before you trash it, saying that the Manusmriti is not relevant - may i point out that people have gone to jail even recently for "disrespecting" the Manusmiriti. I haven't met anyone who actually read about Manusmriti. I don't think most Hindus know about what is in it. Few people few going to jail in one state doesn't make Manusmriti valid. Most states in India have their own language and their own distinct culture.
- pkphilip 10mo ago
  Saying that most Hindus haven't read the Manusmriti is similar to saying that most Muslims haven't read the Shariah law; because the ignorance of the majority doesn't mean that there isn't sufficient support on the ground for its implementation. Manusmriti was actually included in the Sanskrit curriculum of Delhi university before they were forced to drop it after protests. https://bestcolleges.indiatoday.in/news-detail/delhi-university-drops-manusmriti-from-curriculum-after-student-protests-3966 https://bestcolleges.indiatoday.in/news-detail/delhi-univers... The central government's national labour policy borrows ideas from the Manusmriti. https://m.thewire.in/article/caste/draft-national-labour-and-employment-policy-inspired-by-manusmriti-draws-criticism https://m.thewire.in/article/caste/draft-national-labour-and... They have the statue of Manu prominently in front of the Rajasthan high court in india. https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/demand-for-removal-of-manus-statue-from-rajasthan-high-court-revived/article66311102.ece https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/demand-f... And also, the RSS - the ideologues behind the current Indian govt, have expressly stated their support for the Manusmriti. In their magazine Organiser, RSS expressly stated their opposition to the current Indian constitution because it did not include the laws of Manu from the Manusmriti. https://sabrangindia.in/how-rss-denigrated-constitution/ https://sabrangindia.in/how-rss-denigrated-constitution/ Courts have also quoted Manusmriti in their judgements. https://indiatomorrow.net/2025/12/13/bahraich-court-cites-manusmriti-while-awarding-death-sentence-in-communal-clash-case/ https://indiatomorrow.net/2025/12/13/bahraich-court-cites-ma... Court in Karnataka quotes Manusmriti. https://lawbeat.in/news-updates/will-remain-as-a-scar-karnataka-high-court-quotes-gandhi-manusmriti-to-deny-bail-in-gang-rape-case-1532453 https://lawbeat.in/news-updates/will-remain-as-a-scar-karnat... Even Sai Deepak, a prominent SC advocate and a great friend of the present central government, has opposed criticism of Manusmriti.
square_usual 10mo ago
> you claim that I am wrong - but you provide no evidence whatsoever. You didn't provide any evidence either, so before you cry foul start with an actual argument. > In Hinduism, dharma is prescribed based on the person's caste and so also the punishments How is this implying "truth and morality [is] extremely subjective"? If one's dharma varies by caste, does that mean "truth" is "extremely subjective"? The degree to which one's duty, and therefore morals, vary by caste is also not such that murder is good for anyone. In the Gita, Arjuna's caste is mentioned as why killing in war is his duty, but it is also clearly stated that doesn't mean any murder is allowed. There is a clear and consistent undercurrent to the morality in Hinduism. Does dharma changing by caste mean the sun doesn't rise in the east for some castes? You're implying corruption is caused by "truth and morality" being subjective, but does Hinduism therefore imply that being corrupt is okay for some castes? > may i point out that people have gone to jail even recently for "disrespecting" the Manusmiriti. This is straight up false - your article itself says that they were arrested for the confrontation that followed the event, not for any religious intolerance. E: I just want to add - caste and casteism are evil and vile.

leosanchez 10mo ago

> Before you trash it, saying that the Manusmriti is not relevant - may i point out that people have gone to jail even recently for "disrespecting" the Manusmiriti. I haven't met anyone who actually read about Manusmriti. I don't think most Hindus know about what is in it. Few people few going to jail in one state doesn't make Manusmriti valid. Most states in India have their own language and their own distinct culture.

pkphilip 10mo ago
Saying that most Hindus haven't read the Manusmriti is similar to saying that most Muslims haven't read the Shariah law; because the ignorance of the majority doesn't mean that there isn't sufficient support on the ground for its implementation. Manusmriti was actually included in the Sanskrit curriculum of Delhi university before they were forced to drop it after protests. https://bestcolleges.indiatoday.in/news-detail/delhi-university-drops-manusmriti-from-curriculum-after-student-protests-3966 https://bestcolleges.indiatoday.in/news-detail/delhi-univers... The central government's national labour policy borrows ideas from the Manusmriti. https://m.thewire.in/article/caste/draft-national-labour-and-employment-policy-inspired-by-manusmriti-draws-criticism https://m.thewire.in/article/caste/draft-national-labour-and... They have the statue of Manu prominently in front of the Rajasthan high court in india. https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/demand-for-removal-of-manus-statue-from-rajasthan-high-court-revived/article66311102.ece https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/demand-f... And also, the RSS - the ideologues behind the current Indian govt, have expressly stated their support for the Manusmriti. In their magazine Organiser, RSS expressly stated their opposition to the current Indian constitution because it did not include the laws of Manu from the Manusmriti. https://sabrangindia.in/how-rss-denigrated-constitution/ https://sabrangindia.in/how-rss-denigrated-constitution/ Courts have also quoted Manusmriti in their judgements. https://indiatomorrow.net/2025/12/13/bahraich-court-cites-manusmriti-while-awarding-death-sentence-in-communal-clash-case/ https://indiatomorrow.net/2025/12/13/bahraich-court-cites-ma... Court in Karnataka quotes Manusmriti. https://lawbeat.in/news-updates/will-remain-as-a-scar-karnataka-high-court-quotes-gandhi-manusmriti-to-deny-bail-in-gang-rape-case-1532453 https://lawbeat.in/news-updates/will-remain-as-a-scar-karnat... Even Sai Deepak, a prominent SC advocate and a great friend of the present central government, has opposed criticism of Manusmriti.

square_usual 10mo ago

> you claim that I am wrong - but you provide no evidence whatsoever. You didn't provide any evidence either, so before you cry foul start with an actual argument. > In Hinduism, dharma is prescribed based on the person's caste and so also the punishments How is this implying "truth and morality [is] extremely subjective"? If one's dharma varies by caste, does that mean "truth" is "extremely subjective"? The degree to which one's duty, and therefore morals, vary by caste is also not such that murder is good for anyone. In the Gita, Arjuna's caste is mentioned as why killing in war is his duty, but it is also clearly stated that doesn't mean any murder is allowed. There is a clear and consistent undercurrent to the morality in Hinduism. Does dharma changing by caste mean the sun doesn't rise in the east for some castes? You're implying corruption is caused by "truth and morality" being subjective, but does Hinduism therefore imply that being corrupt is okay for some castes? > may i point out that people have gone to jail even recently for "disrespecting" the Manusmiriti. This is straight up false - your article itself says that they were arrested for the confrontation that followed the event, not for any religious intolerance. E: I just want to add - caste and casteism are evil and vile.