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What you wrote here was relevant about 9 months ago. It’s now outdated. The pace and velocity of improvement of Ai can only be described as violent. It is so fa

What you wrote here was relevant about 9 months ago. It’s now outdated. The pace and velocity of improvement of Ai can only be described as violent. It is so fast that there are many people like you who don’t get it.

hansmayer 10mo ago
Yeah, sure buddy :)
- baq 10mo ago
  Disrespect the trend line and get rolled over by the steamroller. Labs are cooking and what is available commercially is lobotomized for safety and alignment. If your baseline of current max capability is sonnet 4.5 released just this summer you’re going to be very surprised in the next few months.
  - leptons 10mo ago
    meh. I'll believe it when I see it. We've been promised so many things in this space, over and over, that never seem to materialize.
  - llmslave2 10mo ago
    I don't understand this idea that non-believers will be "steamrolled" by those who are currently adopting AI into their workflows. If their claims are validated and the new AI workflows end up achieving that claimed 10x productivity speedup, or even a 2x speedup, nobody is cursed to be steamrolled - they'll simply adopt those same workflows same as everyone else. In the meantime they aren't wasting their time trying to figure out the best way to coax and beg the LLM's into better performance.
    - baq 10mo ago
      That's actually what I'm arguing for; use tools where they are applicable. I'm against blind contrarianism and the 'nothing ever happens' attitude since that IME is being proven more wrong each week.
  - hansmayer 10mo ago
    Right, like I was steamrolled by the "Team of Pocket Ph.D Experts" announced earlier this year with ChatGPT 5 ? Remember that underwhelming experience? The Grok to which you could "paste your entire source code file"? The constantly debilitating Claude models? Satya Nadella desperately dropping down to a PO role and bypassing his executives to try and micro-manage Copilot product development because the O365 Copilot experience is experiencing a MASSIVE pushback globally from teams and companies forced to use it ? Or is there another steamrolling coming around? What is this time? Zuckerberg implements 3D avatars in a metaverse with legs that can walk around and talk to us via LLMs? And then they sit down at virtual desks and type on virtual keyboards to produce software? Enlighten me please!
    - threethirtytwo 10mo ago
      First examine your post. Can you create a 3D avatar with legs that can walk and talk? If not, then for this area you’ve been steam rolled. Anyway main point is, you’re looking at the hype headlines which are ludicrous. Where most optimists come from is that they are using it in the daily to code. To them it’s right in front of their eyes. I’m not sure what your experience is but my opinion on AI doesn’t come from speculation. It comes from on the ground experience on how AI currently has changed my job role completely. If I hold the technology to be fixed and to not improve into the future then my point still stands. I’m not speculating. Most AI optimists aren’t speculating. The current on the ground performance is what’s causing the divide. Some people have seen it fully others only have a rudimentary trial.
      - elktown 10mo ago
        I have a hard time trusting the judgement of someone writing this: > I no longer write code. I’ve been a swe for over a decade. AI writes all my code following my instructions. My code output is now expected to be 5x what it was before because we are now augmented by AI. All my coworkers use AI. We don’t use ChatGPT we use anthropic. If I didn’t use AI I would be fired for being too slow. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46175628 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46175628
  - threethirtytwo 10mo ago
    He won’t be steam rolled. But he will eat his words.
leptons 10mo ago
The last big release from OpenAI was a big giant billion-dollar flop. Its lackluster update was written about far and wide, even here on HN. But maybe you're living in an alternate reality?
- threethirtytwo 10mo ago
  I use Claude code. My experience comes from the fact that after over a decade of working as a swe I no longer write code. It’s not some alternate reality thing or reading headlines. It’s my daily life that has changed.
  - andrekandre 10mo ago
    > I no longer write code do you review it before checking it in?
    - threethirtytwo 10mo ago
      Have you used AI before? Agentic systems are set up so it gives you a diff before even making committing to a change. Sounds like you haven’t really used AI agentically yet.
goatlover 10mo ago
Right, the Singularity will be here any day now. We can all just sit back and collect our UBI while plugging into the Matrix. /s
meindnoch 10mo ago
Sure. Just hurry up bro, because Kurzweil is not getting any younger.

hansmayer 10mo ago

Yeah, sure buddy :)

baq 10mo ago
Disrespect the trend line and get rolled over by the steamroller. Labs are cooking and what is available commercially is lobotomized for safety and alignment. If your baseline of current max capability is sonnet 4.5 released just this summer you’re going to be very surprised in the next few months.
- leptons 10mo ago
  meh. I'll believe it when I see it. We've been promised so many things in this space, over and over, that never seem to materialize.
- llmslave2 10mo ago
  I don't understand this idea that non-believers will be "steamrolled" by those who are currently adopting AI into their workflows. If their claims are validated and the new AI workflows end up achieving that claimed 10x productivity speedup, or even a 2x speedup, nobody is cursed to be steamrolled - they'll simply adopt those same workflows same as everyone else. In the meantime they aren't wasting their time trying to figure out the best way to coax and beg the LLM's into better performance.
  - baq 10mo ago
    That's actually what I'm arguing for; use tools where they are applicable. I'm against blind contrarianism and the 'nothing ever happens' attitude since that IME is being proven more wrong each week.
- hansmayer 10mo ago
  Right, like I was steamrolled by the "Team of Pocket Ph.D Experts" announced earlier this year with ChatGPT 5 ? Remember that underwhelming experience? The Grok to which you could "paste your entire source code file"? The constantly debilitating Claude models? Satya Nadella desperately dropping down to a PO role and bypassing his executives to try and micro-manage Copilot product development because the O365 Copilot experience is experiencing a MASSIVE pushback globally from teams and companies forced to use it ? Or is there another steamrolling coming around? What is this time? Zuckerberg implements 3D avatars in a metaverse with legs that can walk around and talk to us via LLMs? And then they sit down at virtual desks and type on virtual keyboards to produce software? Enlighten me please!
  - threethirtytwo 10mo ago
    First examine your post. Can you create a 3D avatar with legs that can walk and talk? If not, then for this area you’ve been steam rolled. Anyway main point is, you’re looking at the hype headlines which are ludicrous. Where most optimists come from is that they are using it in the daily to code. To them it’s right in front of their eyes. I’m not sure what your experience is but my opinion on AI doesn’t come from speculation. It comes from on the ground experience on how AI currently has changed my job role completely. If I hold the technology to be fixed and to not improve into the future then my point still stands. I’m not speculating. Most AI optimists aren’t speculating. The current on the ground performance is what’s causing the divide. Some people have seen it fully others only have a rudimentary trial.
    - elktown 10mo ago
      I have a hard time trusting the judgement of someone writing this: > I no longer write code. I’ve been a swe for over a decade. AI writes all my code following my instructions. My code output is now expected to be 5x what it was before because we are now augmented by AI. All my coworkers use AI. We don’t use ChatGPT we use anthropic. If I didn’t use AI I would be fired for being too slow. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46175628 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46175628
- threethirtytwo 10mo ago
  He won’t be steam rolled. But he will eat his words.

leptons 10mo ago

The last big release from OpenAI was a big giant billion-dollar flop. Its lackluster update was written about far and wide, even here on HN. But maybe you're living in an alternate reality?

threethirtytwo 10mo ago
I use Claude code. My experience comes from the fact that after over a decade of working as a swe I no longer write code. It’s not some alternate reality thing or reading headlines. It’s my daily life that has changed.
- andrekandre 10mo ago
  > I no longer write code do you review it before checking it in?
  - threethirtytwo 10mo ago
    Have you used AI before? Agentic systems are set up so it gives you a diff before even making committing to a change. Sounds like you haven’t really used AI agentically yet.

goatlover 10mo ago

Right, the Singularity will be here any day now. We can all just sit back and collect our UBI while plugging into the Matrix. /s

meindnoch 10mo ago

Sure. Just hurry up bro, because Kurzweil is not getting any younger.