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I have fully bought into Apple’s ecosystem. It’s a walled garden but it’s a pretty nice walled garden, and of all the big tech companies, they are better about

by drob518 10mo ago

I have fully bought into Apple’s ecosystem. It’s a walled garden but it’s a pretty nice walled garden, and of all the big tech companies, they are better about privacy (not perfect, but better) than most. I avoid Google like the plague and only use it when I have to. When you’re interacting with Google, everything you do is going into a log somewhere to be monetized.

websiteapi 10mo ago
> When you’re interacting with Google, everything you do is going into a log somewhere to be monetized. just untrue lol. people literally just believe any nonsense they read. in a pedantic sense any company, where you send things to them is just "going into a log somewhere to be monetized" if you mean having logs can help improve the product which makes said company money... so, to narrow things down this is presumably about personalization - in which case that's obviously just untrue. assuming it's in the pedantic sense, most logs at google are not directly monetized, nor are most logs at google even part of services that even roll-up to ads.
- stanmancan 10mo ago
  How so?
  - websiteapi 10mo ago
    where's the proof of the claim? for one the privacy policy contradicts.
SbEpUBz2 10mo ago
It sure is a nice walled garden, but it can also be pretty restrictive: You can’t subscribe to iCloud from a regular browser, which makes those privacy benefits inaccessible from Linux, while Apple is perfectly happy to take my payment info for Apple Music or Apple TV.
tick_tock_tick 10mo ago
> When you’re interacting with Google, everything you do is going into a log somewhere to be monetized. I've got a bridge to sell you if you think Apple isn't doing the exact same thing. What do you think they are doing with all their focus on their ad business?
- airspresso 10mo ago
  Apple has a solid hardware business and massive profits from their App Store tax, they are not dependent on ad business in the way Google is. Very different incentives.
  - praseodym 10mo ago
    They might not be dependent on ad revenue, but they are a greedy company that will not leave any money on the table. Next year, more ads are coming to the App Store that already generates a profit of over $10 billion/year: https://9to5mac.com/2025/12/17/apple-announces-more-ads-are-coming-to-app-store-search-results https://9to5mac.com/2025/12/17/apple-announces-more-ads-are-...
wiseowise 10mo ago
Not sure if the comment is a satire, but > I avoid Google like the plague and only use it when I have to. When you’re interacting with Google, everything you do is going into a log somewhere to be monetized. HN needs to make an exception for clown emoji.

by drob518 10mo ago

websiteapi 10mo ago

> When you’re interacting with Google, everything you do is going into a log somewhere to be monetized. just untrue lol. people literally just believe any nonsense they read. in a pedantic sense any company, where you send things to them is just "going into a log somewhere to be monetized" if you mean having logs can help improve the product which makes said company money... so, to narrow things down this is presumably about personalization - in which case that's obviously just untrue. assuming it's in the pedantic sense, most logs at google are not directly monetized, nor are most logs at google even part of services that even roll-up to ads.

stanmancan 10mo ago
How so?
- websiteapi 10mo ago
  where's the proof of the claim? for one the privacy policy contradicts.

SbEpUBz2 10mo ago

It sure is a nice walled garden, but it can also be pretty restrictive: You can’t subscribe to iCloud from a regular browser, which makes those privacy benefits inaccessible from Linux, while Apple is perfectly happy to take my payment info for Apple Music or Apple TV.

tick_tock_tick 10mo ago

> When you’re interacting with Google, everything you do is going into a log somewhere to be monetized. I've got a bridge to sell you if you think Apple isn't doing the exact same thing. What do you think they are doing with all their focus on their ad business?

airspresso 10mo ago
Apple has a solid hardware business and massive profits from their App Store tax, they are not dependent on ad business in the way Google is. Very different incentives.
- praseodym 10mo ago
  They might not be dependent on ad revenue, but they are a greedy company that will not leave any money on the table. Next year, more ads are coming to the App Store that already generates a profit of over $10 billion/year: https://9to5mac.com/2025/12/17/apple-announces-more-ads-are-coming-to-app-store-search-results https://9to5mac.com/2025/12/17/apple-announces-more-ads-are-...

wiseowise 10mo ago

Not sure if the comment is a satire, but > I avoid Google like the plague and only use it when I have to. When you’re interacting with Google, everything you do is going into a log somewhere to be monetized. HN needs to make an exception for clown emoji.