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Is that really what he's saying here? He's not against the technology, I think he's just feeling like there's a lot of potential that he's not quite grasping y

Is that really what he's saying here? He's not against the technology, I think he's just feeling like there's a lot of potential that he's not quite grasping yet.

BearOso 9mo ago
This guy is one of the top names in AI. This is pure propaganda written to instill "fear of missing out" and encouraging people to buy into his platform, lest they become "obsolete."
- PaulHoule 9mo ago
  It’s a little shocking to me that this sentiment hasn’t floated higher in the discussion. Regardless of how he feels, this is the way he wants you to feel. Big picture it’s about emotional intelligence and if you are losing your shit you’re going to flail around. I think you should pick up some near-frontier tools and use them to improve your usual process, always keeping your feet on the ground. “Vibe coding” was always about getting you and keeping you over your head. Resist it!
  - gsf_emergency_6 9mo ago
    vive vibe live or it doesnt matter? Maybe Devs should handle copilots as Swiss prana-bindu their shots (Therefore gun laws at a longer timescale) Of course we have to ask aeb if he has ever run into someone who trips (only, of course) while hunting ;) have you?
    - weregiraffe 9mo ago
      Are you grok, or having a stroke?
      - MarcelOlsz 9mo ago
        I understood perfectly what he's saying, but then again schizo is a language I speak fluently. Are you having a stroke?
        PaulHoule 9mo ago
        To be fair I did have just a touch of thought disorder which led me to write "vive" instead of "vibe" and I did correct it when it was pointed out without explaining it which made that comment seem even weirder than it originally was.
        Izkata 9mo ago
        I actually read their comment as "vibe vibe live" which combined with the unknown terms in the next line (a reference to Dune combined with something else, I guess?) made GGP's question fit quite well.
    - aebtebeten 9mo ago
      the french on the good hunter^W vibe coder vs the bad vibe coder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuGcoOJKXT8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuGcoOJKXT8 given that the 3 hares seem to currently lack a signification, I'd be up for squatting? Or would Paul prefer 3 fennecs? Should anyone wish to oppose us, as Bigwig said: "silflay hraka, u embleer rah" a slightly more pragmatic story for shunya as better mousetrap: just as we now routinely have our calculations done for us in binary, but record results in decimal (in PDF invoices, say), ancient romans (among other cultures) would have someone do their calculations on a counting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counting_board https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counting_board board, but recorded (only the non-zero) results in roman numerals. (these days we can spot the algebraists via a sibboleth: they start their papers and books with section/chapter 0) > « Les hommes sont comme les chiffres : ils n'acquièrent de valeur que par leur position. » —NB
      - gsf_emergency_6 9mo ago
        How we seem to be doing: https://www.neatorama.com/2012/05/18/10-facts-you-might-not-know-about-watership-down/#:~:text=Sometimes%20Kavanagh%20and%20McDowell%20would%20take%20the%20pin%20out%20of%20a%20live%20grenade%20and%20toss%20it%20between%20them%20until%20one%20of%20the%20other%20(%E2%80%98Sissy!%E2%80%99)%20threw%20it%20down%20the%20pit%20or%20over%20the%20wall.%20(308%2D309) https://www.neatorama.com/2012/05/18/10-facts-you-might-not-... Re boney quote, that's one heuristic for HN mods TIL Mozilla would have done better channelling the Finnic fennec (Vs rebranding "pinko"). Globe-wrappin Oxygen Auroras it wasn't. Haploid fox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inari_%C5%8Ckami#:~:text=The%20separation%20of%20Buddhism%20and%20Shinto%20began%20in%20the%20late%2019th%20century%20under%20the%20Meiji%20regime%20as%20one%20of%20the%20early%20reforms. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inari_%C5%8Ckami#:~:text=The%2...
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- sailingparrot 9mo ago
  Uncharitable take. His last public stance on this a few months ago when he released nanochat was that he didn’t use coding LLM for it, even though he tried, because they were not good enough and he was just losing time, so coded everything manually. Andrej is already set for life, and has moved into education where most of what he does is released for free.
- neilv 9mo ago
  Exactly. I think some of the commenters were unaware of some of the context, and got an entirely different read on the piece.
- 8note 9mo ago
  on the other hand, it does currently feel like when angular and react were starting to come out, and there was a billion different javascript libraries to learn with a new one coming out every couple weeks, and you arent quite sure what you should spend your time on and how much, vs now where you just learn react, and maybe extend to next.js LLM forward development has a lot of things going on, and it really isn't clear yet what is going be the common standard in a few years time in terms of dev ux, async tools, ci/cd tools, in production and offline workflows, etc. its an easy time to hop down a wrong path picking subpar tools or not experimenting further, but if you just wait, the people who try the right tools are going to be way ahead on making products for their customers.
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robotresearcher 9mo ago
> Is that really what he's saying here? No it’s absolutely not. But I thought it’d be fun to offer Adams’ brilliant hyperbole for an affectionate ribbing of Karpathy. Both of them are great communicators of ideas.

Is that really what he's saying here? He's not against the technology, I think he's just feeling like there's a lot of potential that he's not quite grasping yet.

BearOso 9mo ago

This guy is one of the top names in AI. This is pure propaganda written to instill "fear of missing out" and encouraging people to buy into his platform, lest they become "obsolete."

PaulHoule 9mo ago
It’s a little shocking to me that this sentiment hasn’t floated higher in the discussion. Regardless of how he feels, this is the way he wants you to feel. Big picture it’s about emotional intelligence and if you are losing your shit you’re going to flail around. I think you should pick up some near-frontier tools and use them to improve your usual process, always keeping your feet on the ground. “Vibe coding” was always about getting you and keeping you over your head. Resist it!
- gsf_emergency_6 9mo ago
  vive vibe live or it doesnt matter? Maybe Devs should handle copilots as Swiss prana-bindu their shots (Therefore gun laws at a longer timescale) Of course we have to ask aeb if he has ever run into someone who trips (only, of course) while hunting ;) have you?
  - weregiraffe 9mo ago
    Are you grok, or having a stroke?
    - MarcelOlsz 9mo ago
      I understood perfectly what he's saying, but then again schizo is a language I speak fluently. Are you having a stroke?
      - PaulHoule 9mo ago
        To be fair I did have just a touch of thought disorder which led me to write "vive" instead of "vibe" and I did correct it when it was pointed out without explaining it which made that comment seem even weirder than it originally was.
        Izkata 9mo ago
        I actually read their comment as "vibe vibe live" which combined with the unknown terms in the next line (a reference to Dune combined with something else, I guess?) made GGP's question fit quite well.
  - aebtebeten 9mo ago
    the french on the good hunter^W vibe coder vs the bad vibe coder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuGcoOJKXT8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuGcoOJKXT8 given that the 3 hares seem to currently lack a signification, I'd be up for squatting? Or would Paul prefer 3 fennecs? Should anyone wish to oppose us, as Bigwig said: "silflay hraka, u embleer rah" a slightly more pragmatic story for shunya as better mousetrap: just as we now routinely have our calculations done for us in binary, but record results in decimal (in PDF invoices, say), ancient romans (among other cultures) would have someone do their calculations on a counting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counting_board https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counting_board board, but recorded (only the non-zero) results in roman numerals. (these days we can spot the algebraists via a sibboleth: they start their papers and books with section/chapter 0) > « Les hommes sont comme les chiffres : ils n'acquièrent de valeur que par leur position. » —NB
    - gsf_emergency_6 9mo ago
      How we seem to be doing: https://www.neatorama.com/2012/05/18/10-facts-you-might-not-know-about-watership-down/#:~:text=Sometimes%20Kavanagh%20and%20McDowell%20would%20take%20the%20pin%20out%20of%20a%20live%20grenade%20and%20toss%20it%20between%20them%20until%20one%20of%20the%20other%20(%E2%80%98Sissy!%E2%80%99)%20threw%20it%20down%20the%20pit%20or%20over%20the%20wall.%20(308%2D309) https://www.neatorama.com/2012/05/18/10-facts-you-might-not-... Re boney quote, that's one heuristic for HN mods TIL Mozilla would have done better channelling the Finnic fennec (Vs rebranding "pinko"). Globe-wrappin Oxygen Auroras it wasn't. Haploid fox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inari_%C5%8Ckami#:~:text=The%20separation%20of%20Buddhism%20and%20Shinto%20began%20in%20the%20late%2019th%20century%20under%20the%20Meiji%20regime%20as%20one%20of%20the%20early%20reforms. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inari_%C5%8Ckami#:~:text=The%2...
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sailingparrot 9mo ago
Uncharitable take. His last public stance on this a few months ago when he released nanochat was that he didn’t use coding LLM for it, even though he tried, because they were not good enough and he was just losing time, so coded everything manually. Andrej is already set for life, and has moved into education where most of what he does is released for free.
neilv 9mo ago
Exactly. I think some of the commenters were unaware of some of the context, and got an entirely different read on the piece.
8note 9mo ago
on the other hand, it does currently feel like when angular and react were starting to come out, and there was a billion different javascript libraries to learn with a new one coming out every couple weeks, and you arent quite sure what you should spend your time on and how much, vs now where you just learn react, and maybe extend to next.js LLM forward development has a lot of things going on, and it really isn't clear yet what is going be the common standard in a few years time in terms of dev ux, async tools, ci/cd tools, in production and offline workflows, etc. its an easy time to hop down a wrong path picking subpar tools or not experimenting further, but if you just wait, the people who try the right tools are going to be way ahead on making products for their customers.

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robotresearcher 9mo ago

> Is that really what he's saying here? No it’s absolutely not. But I thought it’d be fun to offer Adams’ brilliant hyperbole for an affectionate ribbing of Karpathy. Both of them are great communicators of ideas.