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The EV market is booming outside of NA. EV growth share in Europe is remarkable and Tesla is flatlining there while everyone else advances.

iknowstuff 10mo ago
Lack of FSD in Europe. If they manage to get it approved in 2026 expect that to reverse.
- apexalpha 10mo ago
  Probably also the no lack of Nazi salutes on TV and his political ‘escapades’.
  - iknowstuff 10mo ago
    He appeared at an AfD thing
    - apexalpha 10mo ago
      I am well aware that clip mustve been played thousands of times. He really had no clue how politics work here. The people voting Afd et al. are NOT people buying EVs. The venn diagram of those groups is two circles.
      - delusional 10mo ago
        > He really had no clue how politics work here. Its not like this differs from the US. Neither white supremacists (the "alt right") nor mainstream republicans were buying his cars. You should be open to the possibility that he isn't clueless, he might actually just be a racist authoritarian.
- array_key_first 10mo ago
  I really, really doubt FSD is the limiter of European sales. It's pricing and competition. The US car market is laughably uncompetitive, with most manufacturers opting to make luxury landboats. It's easy to compete when all your competitors refuse to introduce an EV under, like, 50 grand.
  - riffraff 10mo ago
    I think musk's descent into politics also impacted the Tesla sales in Europe.
    - literalAardvark 10mo ago
      Absolutely. I know a couple of their early adopters in the EU and they were ashamed to drive their cars once that mess started. They've all since sold them (at massive losses).
- qaq 10mo ago
  Sure Musk trying his hardest to blow up EU has 0 effect on sales there
bhokbah 10mo ago
In the EU, jan-nov 2025 compared to jan-nov 2024: BEV market is +27.6% while Tesla is -38.8%.
- wtcactus 10mo ago
  That's only when you consider hybrids. If you look at pure EVs (like Tesla), the picture is different.
  - bhokbah 10mo ago
    No, it's for pure EVs https://www.acea.auto/files/Press_release_car_registrations_November_2025.pdf https://www.acea.auto/files/Press_release_car_registrations_...
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iknowstuff 10mo ago

Lack of FSD in Europe. If they manage to get it approved in 2026 expect that to reverse.

apexalpha 10mo ago
Probably also the no lack of Nazi salutes on TV and his political ‘escapades’.
- iknowstuff 10mo ago
  He appeared at an AfD thing
  - apexalpha 10mo ago
    I am well aware that clip mustve been played thousands of times. He really had no clue how politics work here. The people voting Afd et al. are NOT people buying EVs. The venn diagram of those groups is two circles.
    - delusional 10mo ago
      > He really had no clue how politics work here. Its not like this differs from the US. Neither white supremacists (the "alt right") nor mainstream republicans were buying his cars. You should be open to the possibility that he isn't clueless, he might actually just be a racist authoritarian.
array_key_first 10mo ago
I really, really doubt FSD is the limiter of European sales. It's pricing and competition. The US car market is laughably uncompetitive, with most manufacturers opting to make luxury landboats. It's easy to compete when all your competitors refuse to introduce an EV under, like, 50 grand.
- riffraff 10mo ago
  I think musk's descent into politics also impacted the Tesla sales in Europe.
  - literalAardvark 10mo ago
    Absolutely. I know a couple of their early adopters in the EU and they were ashamed to drive their cars once that mess started. They've all since sold them (at massive losses).
qaq 10mo ago
Sure Musk trying his hardest to blow up EU has 0 effect on sales there

bhokbah 10mo ago

In the EU, jan-nov 2025 compared to jan-nov 2024: BEV market is +27.6% while Tesla is -38.8%.

wtcactus 10mo ago
That's only when you consider hybrids. If you look at pure EVs (like Tesla), the picture is different.
- bhokbah 10mo ago
  No, it's for pure EVs https://www.acea.auto/files/Press_release_car_registrations_November_2025.pdf https://www.acea.auto/files/Press_release_car_registrations_...
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