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You're just not following every statement, and assuming logical continuity. Like a sane (if naive) person. Trump started out with nonsensical accusations that

by mapt 10mo ago

You're just not following every statement, and assuming logical continuity. Like a sane (if naive) person. Trump started out with nonsensical accusations that were clearly thinly veiled regime change plans. Declaring the cartel a terrorist organization, declaring drugs to be de jure military violence worthy of assassination, and declaring the President "Leader of the cartel". Recently Trump admitted (as he proudly does) that this was all lies. Kayfabe. We started seizing oil tankers, and he put out on Truth Social Tuesday December 16th (it could literally be a thousand posts ago, he hasn't been sleeping), that this was a total blockade, that it was about regime change, and retaking what was ours, and that Maduro had better surrender the oil & oil infrastructure. You could interpret this as a reference to the 1976 nationalization of the oil industry, or the 1990's and 2000's... friction... with the American oil primes, but it's pretty clear Trump is a giant ball of imperialist revanchism that doesn't particularly care about the facts. > “Venezuela is completely surrounded by the largest Armada ever assembled in the History of South America,” Trump posted on Truth Social. “It will only get bigger, and the shock to them will be like nothing they have ever seen before — Until such time as they return to the United States of America all of the Oil, Land, and other Assets that they previously stole from us.” Donald Trump, December 16th

AnimalMuppet 10mo ago
"Completely surrounded"? Maybe someone should look at a map of South America.
- LargoLasskhyfv 10mo ago
  Yes? It will show Venezuelas coast is to the north only. Relatively easy to control from a base in Puerto Rico. Which is already happening, as several mainstream media have shown, regarding troop movements and build-up there.
  - AnimalMuppet 10mo ago
    "Completely surrounded" is rather different than "surrounded only on the ocean side".
    - LargoLasskhyfv 10mo ago
      > “Venezuela is completely surrounded by the largest Armada ever assembled in the History of South America,..” ^^^^^ In the context of Armada, implying sea-blockade? Edit: That aside, there isn't much infrastructure like roads, rails, rivers, channels through rough terrain, which would allow to circumvent that meaningfully. Or uncontested borders with neighbors... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuela#/media/File:Venezuela_Topography.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuela#/media/File:Venezuel... vs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_in_Venezuela https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_in_Venezuela
  - mapt 9mo ago
    We're not just in Puerto Rico. Over the past few months we've got assets mobilized all over the southern Caribbean islands with appreciable ports. These mostly have pretty small populations and economies, so it is immediately noticeable to locals, who post about all their spare housing and warehouse space filling up. We also have a appreciable fraction of our blue water Navy sitting down there now.
matheusmoreira 9mo ago
> Declaring the cartel a terrorist organization That's exactly what drug cartels are. He obviously wants venezuelan oil but that doesn't mean he's wrong in doing this.

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AnimalMuppet 10mo ago

"Completely surrounded"? Maybe someone should look at a map of South America.

LargoLasskhyfv 10mo ago
Yes? It will show Venezuelas coast is to the north only. Relatively easy to control from a base in Puerto Rico. Which is already happening, as several mainstream media have shown, regarding troop movements and build-up there.
- AnimalMuppet 10mo ago
  "Completely surrounded" is rather different than "surrounded only on the ocean side".
  - LargoLasskhyfv 10mo ago
    > “Venezuela is completely surrounded by the largest Armada ever assembled in the History of South America,..” ^^^^^ In the context of Armada, implying sea-blockade? Edit: That aside, there isn't much infrastructure like roads, rails, rivers, channels through rough terrain, which would allow to circumvent that meaningfully. Or uncontested borders with neighbors... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuela#/media/File:Venezuela_Topography.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuela#/media/File:Venezuel... vs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_in_Venezuela https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transport_in_Venezuela
- mapt 9mo ago
  We're not just in Puerto Rico. Over the past few months we've got assets mobilized all over the southern Caribbean islands with appreciable ports. These mostly have pretty small populations and economies, so it is immediately noticeable to locals, who post about all their spare housing and warehouse space filling up. We also have a appreciable fraction of our blue water Navy sitting down there now.

matheusmoreira 9mo ago

> Declaring the cartel a terrorist organization That's exactly what drug cartels are. He obviously wants venezuelan oil but that doesn't mean he's wrong in doing this.