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All I see is suppression of free speech because it made somebody feel bad. Nothing actually illegal. I'm pretty sure I can't just relate to how this makes wome

by 127 14y ago

All I see is suppression of free speech because it made somebody feel bad. Nothing actually illegal. I'm pretty sure I can't just relate to how this makes women feel. If somebody took my pictures without me knowing about it and a thread about the picture talking "nice ass" "what a handsome guy" it would just raise my self-esteem. Of course I would think these women (or gay men) would be weird and a little sad, but nothing more. Freedom of speech is not meant to protect someones feelings. It is in fact because of the opposite. It is meant to protect speech that can hurt someones feelings. Sure, they can be judged by the content of that speech but they should still be allowed to say it. Only exceptions I can see to this are hate speech and child porn.

rmrfrmrf 14y ago
So you're pro-doxxing, then, right? Addresses and phone numbers are public record anyway, right? Why should I care if a submitter "feels bad" about his personal info leaking onto the net?
- 127 14y ago
  I have two exceptions to free speech: child porn and hate speech. Doxxing is dangerously close to hate speech. Its only purpose is to root out the guy or girl who made a controversial statement and punish him or her for making it. Without anonymity it is often difficult and dangerous to express reasonable, but truly controversial ideas.
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mnicole 14y ago
You might think that's flattering, but I don't care what those people think about me and I definitely didn't ask them for their opinion -- whether or not it's in my favor. Do women like cat-calls from neighborhood windows and construction workers? No, it's rude and it implies that I exist for their enjoyment. At the end of the day, in an era where facial- and location-recognition software are becoming more and more the norm, I don't need threads about my "nice ass" being tied to my face and my whereabouts on an open forum where anyone with a grudge against me personally or just somebody that hates my face could go and start drama without my presence and ability to defend myself. In nearly every single thread with a picture of someone, there is a comment or two asking "Does this person live in X?" or "Is their name Y?" A (somewhat humiliating) photo of an acquaintance was posted and made it to the front page, and it seemed like everyone knew a girl that looked like her and named names, trying to work together to solve this unwanted mystery. In the worst scenarios, you'll get exes that go off the rails and start listing off details about them before a mod finds the post. Privacy is a right, not a privilege, and while the lines blur and it becomes more of an ethical issue between who you trust with images/information you post online, it should still be treated from the perspective that gawkers should find their kicks elsewhere.

by 127 14y ago

rmrfrmrf 14y ago

So you're pro-doxxing, then, right? Addresses and phone numbers are public record anyway, right? Why should I care if a submitter "feels bad" about his personal info leaking onto the net?

127 14y ago
I have two exceptions to free speech: child porn and hate speech. Doxxing is dangerously close to hate speech. Its only purpose is to root out the guy or girl who made a controversial statement and punish him or her for making it. Without anonymity it is often difficult and dangerous to express reasonable, but truly controversial ideas.

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mnicole 14y ago

You might think that's flattering, but I don't care what those people think about me and I definitely didn't ask them for their opinion -- whether or not it's in my favor. Do women like cat-calls from neighborhood windows and construction workers? No, it's rude and it implies that I exist for their enjoyment. At the end of the day, in an era where facial- and location-recognition software are becoming more and more the norm, I don't need threads about my "nice ass" being tied to my face and my whereabouts on an open forum where anyone with a grudge against me personally or just somebody that hates my face could go and start drama without my presence and ability to defend myself. In nearly every single thread with a picture of someone, there is a comment or two asking "Does this person live in X?" or "Is their name Y?" A (somewhat humiliating) photo of an acquaintance was posted and made it to the front page, and it seemed like everyone knew a girl that looked like her and named names, trying to work together to solve this unwanted mystery. In the worst scenarios, you'll get exes that go off the rails and start listing off details about them before a mod finds the post. Privacy is a right, not a privilege, and while the lines blur and it becomes more of an ethical issue between who you trust with images/information you post online, it should still be treated from the perspective that gawkers should find their kicks elsewhere.