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Unpopular opinion: you should learn the absolute basics of the language used in the country you are travelling to. Seriously? That unpopular? Lmfao.

SpaceNugget 10mo ago
Going from the Netherlands to Budapest I started my journey with Deutsche Bahn. My train also did the split in half and go different directions trick. Was I supposed to learn Dutch, German, and Hungarian in order to buy my train tickets?
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- johnisgood 10mo ago
  I said "travelling TO", and most of the time you do not need to know anything apart from the name of the city... and then I presume you have a smartphone as well. Come on. What did you do once you arrived in Budapest? Did you do your research or did you get scammed by the taxi mafia as well?
  - rplnt 10mo ago
    If you travel to Budapest from Berlin you buy the ticket from DB and the crew changes as follows: German, Czech, Slovak, Hungarian. None of the first three crews would speak Hungarian. Luckily all will be able to communicate in English. (regular announcements oftentimes won't be in Hungarian until you are in Hungary, that depends on the train origin, but I would only expect local+English)
  - rplnt 10mo ago
    > What did you do once you arrived in Budapest? You will be perfectly fine staying in Budapest with just English; you can learn hello, please, and thank you to be polite. This goes for most bigger European cities, outside of France I guess.
    - bombcar 10mo ago
      Even France you can survive with English, just try some French and ask “how do you say” a number of times. French people are quite friendly if you don’t exhibit all the worst symptoms of stereotypical tourists.
rwmj 10mo ago
I took French for 5 years and I don't think I learned enough to understand a tannoy announcement that the train was being split into two parts. Tannoy announcements aren't the easiest to understand even for native speakers.
- bombcar 10mo ago
  It’s been a staple of comedy routines that train announcers can’t be understood even by native speakers.
sho_hn 10mo ago
> Unpopular opinion: you should learn the absolute basics of the language used in the country you are travelling to. As a German I disagree with this. Europe is a single market, we want to have people getting around crossing borders at all times to get stuff done. It pays to make things easier. If you're going for a three-weeks leisure trip, sure, learn how to say hi and thank-you.
xenocratus 10mo ago
Not only unpopular, but pretty daft too. If you think the basics of a language should include "this train will separate into two at station X, please sit in the front Y carriages to get to Z" then enjoy doing a cross-Europe trip.
- johnisgood 10mo ago
  I have done cross-Europe trips before and I needed way less than that.
  - xenocratus 10mo ago
    Well in this case this is what you would've needed. Either you ignored that when you replied, or you didn't care.
    - johnisgood 10mo ago
      I planned my trips (read: spent a couple of minutes on them). I went through all countries from Budapest to London. I was only 16 years old at one time. I did fine. Adults, in the age of smartphones are having issues? It actually is wild to me.
      - bombcar 10mo ago
        Being 16 was a benefit - you didn’t know anything so you checked basically everything. This kind of thing captures older adults who know everything and have never heard of a trainset split. I made a similar mistake years ago in NY - I assumed that the impressive subway system could get me to the airport, but you transfer onto a bus that gives you a VERY detailed tour of some neighborhoods.
        johnisgood 10mo ago
        I did not check out everything, I had to be somewhere. I would have mentioned running away at age 13 with no destination in mind but I never left the country.
prmoustache 10mo ago
Knowing the basics is knowing how to salute, thanks, ask basic directions. You can't ask everyone to know every single language they visit and be able to understand stuff mentionned in a foreign language in a possibly noisy environment and from an only half decent speaker system.
mft_ 10mo ago
Basics for a casual traveller are 'hello, 'please', 'thank you', 'two beers', 'can I have the bill', and 'I'll take the schnitzel please'. Perfectly understanding rapidly-spoken German explaining something esoteric about the splitting of a train is magnitudes, years of study beyond casual traveller level.

SpaceNugget 10mo ago

Going from the Netherlands to Budapest I started my journey with Deutsche Bahn. My train also did the split in half and go different directions trick. Was I supposed to learn Dutch, German, and Hungarian in order to buy my train tickets?

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johnisgood 10mo ago
I said "travelling TO", and most of the time you do not need to know anything apart from the name of the city... and then I presume you have a smartphone as well. Come on. What did you do once you arrived in Budapest? Did you do your research or did you get scammed by the taxi mafia as well?
- rplnt 10mo ago
  If you travel to Budapest from Berlin you buy the ticket from DB and the crew changes as follows: German, Czech, Slovak, Hungarian. None of the first three crews would speak Hungarian. Luckily all will be able to communicate in English. (regular announcements oftentimes won't be in Hungarian until you are in Hungary, that depends on the train origin, but I would only expect local+English)
- rplnt 10mo ago
  > What did you do once you arrived in Budapest? You will be perfectly fine staying in Budapest with just English; you can learn hello, please, and thank you to be polite. This goes for most bigger European cities, outside of France I guess.
  - bombcar 10mo ago
    Even France you can survive with English, just try some French and ask “how do you say” a number of times. French people are quite friendly if you don’t exhibit all the worst symptoms of stereotypical tourists.

rwmj 10mo ago

I took French for 5 years and I don't think I learned enough to understand a tannoy announcement that the train was being split into two parts. Tannoy announcements aren't the easiest to understand even for native speakers.

bombcar 10mo ago
It’s been a staple of comedy routines that train announcers can’t be understood even by native speakers.

sho_hn 10mo ago

> Unpopular opinion: you should learn the absolute basics of the language used in the country you are travelling to. As a German I disagree with this. Europe is a single market, we want to have people getting around crossing borders at all times to get stuff done. It pays to make things easier. If you're going for a three-weeks leisure trip, sure, learn how to say hi and thank-you.

xenocratus 10mo ago

Not only unpopular, but pretty daft too. If you think the basics of a language should include "this train will separate into two at station X, please sit in the front Y carriages to get to Z" then enjoy doing a cross-Europe trip.

johnisgood 10mo ago
I have done cross-Europe trips before and I needed way less than that.
- xenocratus 10mo ago
  Well in this case this is what you would've needed. Either you ignored that when you replied, or you didn't care.
  - johnisgood 10mo ago
    I planned my trips (read: spent a couple of minutes on them). I went through all countries from Budapest to London. I was only 16 years old at one time. I did fine. Adults, in the age of smartphones are having issues? It actually is wild to me.
    - bombcar 10mo ago
      Being 16 was a benefit - you didn’t know anything so you checked basically everything. This kind of thing captures older adults who know everything and have never heard of a trainset split. I made a similar mistake years ago in NY - I assumed that the impressive subway system could get me to the airport, but you transfer onto a bus that gives you a VERY detailed tour of some neighborhoods.
      - johnisgood 10mo ago
        I did not check out everything, I had to be somewhere. I would have mentioned running away at age 13 with no destination in mind but I never left the country.

prmoustache 10mo ago

Knowing the basics is knowing how to salute, thanks, ask basic directions. You can't ask everyone to know every single language they visit and be able to understand stuff mentionned in a foreign language in a possibly noisy environment and from an only half decent speaker system.

mft_ 10mo ago

Basics for a casual traveller are 'hello, 'please', 'thank you', 'two beers', 'can I have the bill', and 'I'll take the schnitzel please'. Perfectly understanding rapidly-spoken German explaining something esoteric about the splitting of a train is magnitudes, years of study beyond casual traveller level.