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Maybe, but Bill Clinton recently: >“We forced Ukraine to give up nuclear weapons, cruise missiles, and strategic bombers. We promised to protect Ukraine from R

by tim333 10mo ago

Maybe, but Bill Clinton recently: >“We forced Ukraine to give up nuclear weapons, cruise missiles, and strategic bombers. We promised to protect Ukraine from Russia. We made Ukraine vulnerable. So yes, this is our war.” He was the one who did the deal.

paleotrope 10mo ago
He should be the one to enforce it then.
- mcphage 10mo ago
  Are you saying you want to put him back in charge?
  - tim333 10mo ago
    He had decent approval ratings and was the last president to run an actual budget surplus rather than the huge deficits of late so you could do worse.
    - mcphage 10mo ago
      I mean, fair. I just don't think the person I responded to actually thought that part through.
- _DeadFred_ 10mo ago
  Ah yes, let's not have consistent policy in the USA, and let's not keep our promises/guarantees. That will make America great. If the President says 'this is what I negotiated' we should fulfill that agreement, not look for ways to get out of the agreement or legal loopholes (sure the Ukrainians agreement said one thing, but in the English version we put something less binding). I get that doing so wouldn't be billionaire behavior that we worship (how can I get the better end of the deal AND get out of whatever commitments I made).
Youden 10mo ago
I haven't actually seen any evidence of such a promise though. From what I've read, the US explicitly avoided making any such commitments at the time. Was he stating a fact, or was this perhaps some political rhetoric?