> Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians would be alive now if not for this dispute I mean, we (the west) could have saved ourselves a lot of money by putting it

> Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians would be alive now if not for this dispute I mean, we (the west) could have saved ourselves a lot of money by putting it to Russia that if they crossed the border then we'd defend the airspace. Essentially, being half assed about it is going to cost more money and lives. The Ukrainians were going to defend themselves whatever we did. I don't think Europe has a choice but to be involved. > We have lots of problems of our own I don't really understand that. You don't get to turn away from new problems and global problems because you have some economic issues of your own. Indeed, it's all the more likely to be why you get dragged in. > The West has sent hundreds of billions of dollars worth of aid to Ukraine We can afford it. The US is probably well ahead due to the sale of new weapons as well.