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Visibilty - i have no idea if there are censoring algorithms at play anywhere.
by TeodorDyakov 9mo ago
Visibilty - i have no idea if there are censoring algorithms at play anywhere.
- hdgvhicv 9mo agoChilling effects. Western culture is taken over by American Puritian values thanks to the globlaisation of the media.
- perching_aix 9mo agoMhmm, so chilling. Cause word filters aren't as old as computing itself...
- hdgvhicv 9mo agoDon’t need to ban speech when your population preemptively does it for you in fear of an unaccountable corporation blocking you.
- perching_aix 9mo agoDon't need to ban speech when people on their soapboxes keep telling me I need to be in terror. Will somebody pleeeaaaase think of American Puritanism and Globalism?
- andrepd 9mo ago"Unalive" has reached mainstream usage, on account of those inscrutable censors. If that is not the spitting picture of Newspeak I don't know what is.
- rjh29 9mo agoThe trend of self-censoring words like 'dead' and 'kill' appears to be relatively new, motivated by TikTok and YouTube algorithms, but spilling over into the general internet.
- martin-t 9mo agoCorrelation is not causation but I challenge anyone to come up with a different cause: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=tiktok,unalive&hl=en https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=tiktok,u... https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=unalive&hl=en https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=unalive&...
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- rjh29 9mo agoI agree, although I was referring to asterisks like de*d and k*ll (or censoring with black bars, or using emojis) - euphemisms of course have always been part of language evolution.
- martin-t 9mo agoI chose unalive because i didn't know google trends allowed searching for asterisks. Appears it does. k*ll was apparently used even before tiktok but usage increased markedly around the same time as unalive appeared. Interestingly d*ad and r*pe don't follow this pattern. I am not sure it treats asterisks correctly, nor that google trends is the right tool to research this, given people searching for the word is only a poor indicator of its usage. Sidenote, I wish all websites supported markdown properly and not a custom weird subset they found convenient.
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- hdgvhicv 9mo agoThe sewer section of sites like the daily mail has been needlessly censoring words for well over a decade
- DonHopkins 9mo ago[dead]
- martin-t 9mo agoWord filters are only the beginning. LLMs are being phased in to flag and filter content based on more sophisticated criteria. I read somewhere that chinese people used the ability of their language to form new meanings by concatenating multiple symbols in many different ways to get around censorship and that each time the new combination was banned, they came up with a new one. I wonder how long that'll be possible.
- serf 9mo agopasswords were a foreign concept to early computing, but you presume censorship was taking place? it took awhile of corporatization and profit-shaping before censorship on computers really took off in any meaningful way. ...but it wasn't for any reasons other than market broadening and regulation compliance.
- perching_aix 9mo agoI think you're not taking what I wrote nearly literally enough. Really, you should be showing me diagrams of the Von Neumann architecture missing a censorship module. Maybe even gasp at the omission of it in Babbage's letters. But why stop there? Let's bring out the venerable Abacus! We could have riveting discussions about how societies even back then, thousands of years ago, designated certain language as foul, and had rules about not using profanities in various settings. Ah, if only they knew they were actually victims of Orwellian censorship, and a globalist conspiracy.
- DonHopkins 9mo agoIt's even possible to spell out BOOBS on an abacus.
- drstewart 9mo agoPuritans were English protestants. I think you mean to say it's being taken over by European values.
- perching_aix 9mo agoAh yes, after muricans bad, let's have some euros bad. I learn some amazing things on this site. Apparently the culture agnostic, historical practice of designating words and phrases as distasteful is actually a modern American, European, no actually Globalist, but ah no actually religious, but also no maybe Chinese?, no, definitely a Russian mind virus. Whatever the prominent narrative is for the given person at any given time. Bit like when "mums is blaming everything on the computer". Just with political sophistry.
- hdgvhicv 9mo agoPuritans were kicked out of Europe for their views
- drstewart 9mo agoNothing says tolerance and no censorship like kicking out people for their views
- perching_aix 9mo agoIf people are tolerant, they're woke. If people are intolerant, they're nazis. Standards of conduct are oppressive, but the lack of them indicate a shithole. And of course, anything in-between is just performative fence-sitting. Tough crowd over here. Cultural bankruptcy speedrun much?
- hdgvhicv 9mo agoSo European values of the 1500s through 1700s are not puritan values. Europe has liberalised since then.
- lawn 9mo agoCensoring shit or fuck is very much not a European thing.
- TiredOfLife 9mo agoTIL TikTok is american.