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A €3 duty, to which the carriers will apply a €12 surcharge for acting as an agent to collect that €3 I understand paying import duties and VAT, but they need

A €3 duty, to which the carriers will apply a €12 surcharge for acting as an agent to collect that €3 I understand paying import duties and VAT, but they need to make it frictionless and abolish these “agents” for consumer imports.

magicalhippo 10mo ago
Finland has a nice system AFAIK. Tulli created an online declaration system[1], and forces carriers to integrate with it. When a person wants to declare their package, Tulli requests the relevant data from the relevant carrier. Thus the declaration gets prefilled with mostly correct data, which the person can then verify, change or augment. Haven't used it myself but sounds quite nice, and Posti's handling fee[2] is a reasonable EUR 3.10. [1]: https://tulli.fi/en/declare-your-parcel https://tulli.fi/en/declare-your-parcel [2]: https://www.posti.fi/en/for-businesses/pay-the-handling-fee https://www.posti.fi/en/for-businesses/pay-the-handling-fee
- londons_explore 10mo ago
  The handling fee should be €0.00, partly because the system should be fully digital and automated in today's world, and partly because dealing with customs is a required part of shipping a parcel overseas, which the sender has already paid for. Also, €3 is massive when some items are €0.99 with free shipping.
  - supermatt 10mo ago
    Totally agree. Although that 0.99 with free shipping is exactly because of the backwards way international postage works - and that is what needs to change. It should be changed so any necessary handling fees for consumer purchases are fully included in the shipping price. It will mean no free shipping from temu on a 0.99 item, but those zero/low shipment items are literally what has prompted this €3 levy in the first place.
  - magicalhippo 10mo ago
    > because dealing with customs is a required part of shipping a parcel overseas, which the sender has already paid for Obviously if the shipment is DDP then the customer wouldn't have to do the customs clearance and wouldn't pay in addition for the handling. This solution would only be for DAP or similar[1]. DigiKey for example allows you to select between different incoterms, but most shops have a "take it or leave it" approach, and usually DAP as DDP is a lot more risky for the seller. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incoterms#DAP_%E2%80%93_Delivered_At_Place_(named_place_of_destination) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incoterms#DAP_%E2%80%93_Delive...
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magicalhippo 10mo ago

Finland has a nice system AFAIK. Tulli created an online declaration system[1], and forces carriers to integrate with it. When a person wants to declare their package, Tulli requests the relevant data from the relevant carrier. Thus the declaration gets prefilled with mostly correct data, which the person can then verify, change or augment. Haven't used it myself but sounds quite nice, and Posti's handling fee[2] is a reasonable EUR 3.10. [1]: https://tulli.fi/en/declare-your-parcel https://tulli.fi/en/declare-your-parcel [2]: https://www.posti.fi/en/for-businesses/pay-the-handling-fee https://www.posti.fi/en/for-businesses/pay-the-handling-fee

londons_explore 10mo ago
The handling fee should be €0.00, partly because the system should be fully digital and automated in today's world, and partly because dealing with customs is a required part of shipping a parcel overseas, which the sender has already paid for. Also, €3 is massive when some items are €0.99 with free shipping.
- supermatt 10mo ago
  Totally agree. Although that 0.99 with free shipping is exactly because of the backwards way international postage works - and that is what needs to change. It should be changed so any necessary handling fees for consumer purchases are fully included in the shipping price. It will mean no free shipping from temu on a 0.99 item, but those zero/low shipment items are literally what has prompted this €3 levy in the first place.
- magicalhippo 10mo ago
  > because dealing with customs is a required part of shipping a parcel overseas, which the sender has already paid for Obviously if the shipment is DDP then the customer wouldn't have to do the customs clearance and wouldn't pay in addition for the handling. This solution would only be for DAP or similar[1]. DigiKey for example allows you to select between different incoterms, but most shops have a "take it or leave it" approach, and usually DAP as DDP is a lot more risky for the seller. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incoterms#DAP_%E2%80%93_Delivered_At_Place_(named_place_of_destination) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incoterms#DAP_%E2%80%93_Delive...
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