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Ah man...that's good. But maybe both of those are in the category of undesirable things. And the things we end up with are like art and baking and walking and

Ah man...that's good. But maybe both of those are in the category of undesirable things. And the things we end up with are like art and baking and walking and talking and drinking coffee and such. Professional Chess is a nice pattern here. A calculator can beat Magnus Carlsen at this point, but Chess is more popular than ever. So it should be ok if AI/Robots are better than us at all the stuff we still decide to do.

sunrunner 9mo ago
Except Professional Chess, taken to mean players earning a living solely from paid tournament play, is in the low hundreds? Thousands? Meanwhile there are over 20 million 'professional' software developers. There are many things about that single number demographic that I would argue against, but despite that I'm not sure there's ever been a market for any kind of 'professional chess player', yet there is for 'professional software developer' (for some definitions of 'professional' and 'software'). [1] https://evansdata.com/reports/viewRelease.php?reportID=9 https://evansdata.com/reports/viewRelease.php?reportID=9
- eudamoniac 9mo ago
  Making a living from solely paid tournament play is about 20-30 people in the world
llmslave2 9mo ago
Yeah I don't see clankers ever taking over art, music, sports etc. People care in large part about those things because of the human aspect. I'd love for them to take my job as a programmer though, as that would certainty free up time for me to travel and drink coffee and Guinness.
- stavros 9mo ago
  Where would you find the money to do those things with?
  - kelseyfrog 9mo ago
    If all productive human labor is replaced by AI we have larger problems than where we'll find the money.
    - sunrunner 9mo ago
      I guess we all just need to come up with a shared definition for ‘productive’ first then? Shouldn’t be too difficult.
      - kelseyfrog 9mo ago
        What if we just use "that which is exchanged for money"?
  - llmslave2 9mo ago
    Hopefully from money I've saved up or a business I started in the meantime.

sunrunner 9mo ago

Except Professional Chess, taken to mean players earning a living solely from paid tournament play, is in the low hundreds? Thousands? Meanwhile there are over 20 million 'professional' software developers. There are many things about that single number demographic that I would argue against, but despite that I'm not sure there's ever been a market for any kind of 'professional chess player', yet there is for 'professional software developer' (for some definitions of 'professional' and 'software'). [1] https://evansdata.com/reports/viewRelease.php?reportID=9 https://evansdata.com/reports/viewRelease.php?reportID=9

eudamoniac 9mo ago
Making a living from solely paid tournament play is about 20-30 people in the world

llmslave2 9mo ago

Yeah I don't see clankers ever taking over art, music, sports etc. People care in large part about those things because of the human aspect. I'd love for them to take my job as a programmer though, as that would certainty free up time for me to travel and drink coffee and Guinness.

stavros 9mo ago
Where would you find the money to do those things with?
- kelseyfrog 9mo ago
  If all productive human labor is replaced by AI we have larger problems than where we'll find the money.
  - sunrunner 9mo ago
    I guess we all just need to come up with a shared definition for ‘productive’ first then? Shouldn’t be too difficult.
    - kelseyfrog 9mo ago
      What if we just use "that which is exchanged for money"?
- llmslave2 9mo ago
  Hopefully from money I've saved up or a business I started in the meantime.