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Everyone should say no to palantir anywhere, especially outside the US.
by anonzzzies 10mo ago
Everyone should say no to palantir anywhere, especially outside the US.
- DFHippie 10mo agoI assume "planting" is a typo'ed "palantir", in which case I agree completely. And it's true inside the US as much as outside.
- anonzzzies 10mo agoThanks, fixed.
- rvz 10mo agoYou should also include Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Meta, OpenAI, IBM, Anthropic, and any tech company that has a defence contract with the US Department of Defence / War and ICE or any government. Yet the big problem is of course for those being “principled” about this subject are not serious themselves as some either work there and profit from it, continue to use their products including LLMs or will concede to using them due to social inertia. The only time this is taken seriously is when all these contracts are scrapped. (They won’t be.)
- exBarrelSpoiler 10mo agoAs cliche is it to cry whataboutism, this clearly is. Incrementalism is better than nothing. Sanctimony is FUD. If even one company is suffers at least it’ll serve as a warning to the others.
- biophysboy 10mo agoI think the difference is that Palantir is significantly more focused on federal contracts, particularly those related to defense/surveillance.
- heavyset_go 10mo agoLarge tech companies are defense contractors now.
- nurettin 10mo agoWDYM "now"? Companies that get large enough get contracts. Even apple sold power macs iphones and ipads to us mil.
- koakuma-chan 10mo agoI'm throwing out my iPhone and moving to Tibet.
- XorNot 10mo agoCompanies that submit bids for contracts get contracts. You would be surprised at the diversity of size and scale of companies which service defense contracts in particular - very small companies can end up in big supply chains because they're the ones who turn up to make the part.
- AndrewKemendo 10mo agoIs there a time they weren’t? Google got their first DoD contract in 2003 from DARPA.
- stocksinsmocks 10mo ago
- willtemperley 10mo agoAbsolutely. We should not contract any of these companies and use British companies instead.
- jaccola 10mo agoI'm sure AMSTRAD could knock up a few data centres for a couple o quid
- aprilthird2021 10mo agoWhen one domino falls, it will cause many to fall at once
- moogly 10mo agoDon't let the best be the enemy of the good.
- 151212j0j 10mo agoOf course that's the goal, but stopping new contract is 1 step toward the goal my friend, got to stop whining and take baby step. You are saying stopping new coal mine means that everyone need to stop heating now and freeze to death this winter.
- outside1234 10mo agoAs a worker in one of the companies above, I can tell you that we aren’t willing to do just “whatever” to win contracts. We have real responsible AI reviews etc. We would not just hand over data to the US government. It doesn’t seem that way at Palantir.
- anonzzzies 10mo agoBut the issue is, and I am not someone saying we should or can throw everything out, that if the US gov demands it, you have to hand over the data right? If your HQ is in the US? Palantir, for me, is worse because of what they are and their communications as you say, but all of these, when compelled by the courts, have to hand over right?
- whimsicalism 10mo agobest not to do business with any foreign country then. neo-isolationism becomes global and all it took was a second Trump term.
- esseph 10mo ago"all it took was a total loss of international confidence"
- philwelch 10mo agoWhy stop there? You should also boycott the investment firms behind these tech companies, like Y Combinator, and their Internet forums like Hacker News.
- mrcartmeneses 10mo agoSo we can’t take it seriously until the problem is already solved? I think the worry regarding Palantir is that it is explicitly and openly fascist rather than just doing fascism on the side
- next_xibalba 10mo agoWhy?
- mr_toad 10mo agoWe don’t know who else is watching.
- discordance 10mo agoPalantir is inside Coles supermarkets in Australia. I've stopped going to Coles because of that. https://investors.palantir.com/news-details/2024/Palantir-Partners-with-One-of-Australias-Leading-Retailers/ https://investors.palantir.com/news-details/2024/Palantir-Pa...
- left-struck 10mo agoWow the business jargon is dense in this one. What a pile of garbage.
- koakuma-chan 10mo agoWhy?
- jschrf 10mo agoSurveillance Capitalism
- darubedarob 10mo agoThey are the only ones who can really do predictions on a policy level. Ever since the post "they will just embrace liberty" ideology disaster that was the iraq-war mining of the cellphones aka palantirs for behavioural data has given some pretty gnarly insights to what mankind can do and cant do. None of this "We shall just degrowth and life in harmony with nature" or "all cultures can equally well form lawfull societies" nonsense. And if you have the knowledge about what a thing can and cant do, you can package it into a simulator and sell predictions to policymakers. Predictions & policies like : "Let refugeewaves in and the idealistic-retarded movements will poison themselves, wither and die".
- ddalex 10mo agoI keep hearing about these Palantir magic abilities but I have not seen any positive example where Palantir made an actually actionable predictions that are not common sense
- outside1234 10mo agoAnd inside the US too!