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Have to keep in mind that what is happening now is basically what was promised decades ago. Never mind 4GL, 5GL, expert systems, and other efforts that went n

Have to keep in mind that what is happening now is basically what was promised decades ago. Never mind 4GL, 5GL, expert systems, and other efforts that went nowhere... even COBOL was created with the intention of making programming look more like natural language. Often, revolutions take longer to happen than we think they will, and then they happen faster than we think they will. And when the tipping point is finally reached, we find more people pushing back than we thought there would be.

bahaAbunojaim 11mo ago
I believe high level languages will be replaced by natural human language, the same way as low level languages replaced by high level languages. It is the natural evolution of development. On the other hand agentic teams will take over solo agents.
- Terretta 11mo ago
  > I believe high level languages will be replaced by natural human languageI believe high level languages will be replaced by natural human language Ask any human client buying dev work from a web agency how "natural language" spec works out for them. It's not clear to me at all that "natural language" alone is ideal -- unless you also have near real time iteration of builds. If you do, then the build is a concrete manifestation of the spec, and the natural language can say "but that's not what I meant". This allows messy natural language to vector towards the solution, "I'll know it when I see it" style. So, natural language shaping iteratively convergent builds.
- blks 11mo ago
  Is that your actual believe? That non-formal, natural human language explaining the task will replace formal programming?
  - felipeerias 11mo ago
    Things seem to be heading in the direction of using formal languages to define deterministic behaviour and natural languages to express matters of human taste.
  - spaceman_2020 11mo ago
    If you zoom out, it does seem like the most natural thing - why should humans with finite memory and context better than an all knowing machine?
bandrami 11mo ago
OK but is it leading to either better or more plentiful software? That's the step that people keep seeming to miss here.

bahaAbunojaim 11mo ago

I believe high level languages will be replaced by natural human language, the same way as low level languages replaced by high level languages. It is the natural evolution of development. On the other hand agentic teams will take over solo agents.

Terretta 11mo ago
> I believe high level languages will be replaced by natural human languageI believe high level languages will be replaced by natural human language Ask any human client buying dev work from a web agency how "natural language" spec works out for them. It's not clear to me at all that "natural language" alone is ideal -- unless you also have near real time iteration of builds. If you do, then the build is a concrete manifestation of the spec, and the natural language can say "but that's not what I meant". This allows messy natural language to vector towards the solution, "I'll know it when I see it" style. So, natural language shaping iteratively convergent builds.
blks 11mo ago
Is that your actual believe? That non-formal, natural human language explaining the task will replace formal programming?
- felipeerias 11mo ago
  Things seem to be heading in the direction of using formal languages to define deterministic behaviour and natural languages to express matters of human taste.
- spaceman_2020 11mo ago
  If you zoom out, it does seem like the most natural thing - why should humans with finite memory and context better than an all knowing machine?

bandrami 11mo ago

OK but is it leading to either better or more plentiful software? That's the step that people keep seeming to miss here.