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This does sound problematic, but if a police officer's report contradicts the body-worn camera or other evidence, it already undermines their credibility, wheth
by avidiax 10mo ago
This does sound problematic, but if a police officer's report contradicts the body-worn camera or other evidence, it already undermines their credibility, whether they blame AI or not. My impression is that police don't usually face repercussions for inaccuracies or outright lying in court.
> That means that if an officer is caught lying on the stand – as shown by a contradiction between their courtroom testimony and their earlier police report
The bigger issue, that the article doesn't cover, is that police officers may not carefully review the AI generated report, and then when appearing in court months or years later, will testify to whatever is in the report, accurate or not. So the issue is that the officer doesn't contradict inaccuracies in the report.
- parineum 10mo ago> My impression is that police don't usually face repercussions for inaccuracies or outright lying in court. That's because it's a very difficult thing to prove. Bad memories and even completely false memories are real things.
- BrenBarn 10mo agoThat's why we need a greatly reduced standard of proof for officer misconduct, especially when it comes to consequences like just losing your job (as opposed to, e.g., jail time).
- lostnground 10mo agoWhile I agree that officers should be accountable. More enforcement of them will not suddenly make them good officers. Other nations train their police for years prior to putting them into the thick of it. US police spend far less time studying, and it shows, in everything from de-escalation tactics to general legal understanding. If you create a pipeline to weed out bad officers, then there needs to be a pipeline producing better officers
- awesome_dude 10mo agoThis is an outrageous lie, there were SEVEN Police Academy movies!!!
- tialaramex 10mo agoAIUI US policing is descended from slave catching and strike breaking. Two activities which I think we'd say today are obviously bad. In many European states their policing starts as town guards tasked with ensuring order. Order is, at least, not obviously bad. So that's a philosophical difference in what these forces even think their purpose is.
- sejje 10mo agoYou understand it wrong. That's not where police come from.
- pyth0 10mo agoIf you want to make your comment useful, you could share some information about where you understand policing in America to have originated.
- sejje 10mo agoLaw enforcement is an idea that originated when law originated. There is no law without enforcement. American settlers got the idea from the same place they got the idea for laws. Their home countries. Enforcing laws isn't an American invention, let's not be ridiculous.
- tialaramex 10mo ago> Law enforcement is an idea that originated when law originated. There is no law without enforcement. To the extent this anything more than circular it's false. Although psychopaths exist, on the whole compliance to a lesser or greater degree is a normal human trait. So you can tell people what the rules are and they'll obey to some extent. How much varies from person to person. So the creation of specialist law enforcement bodies is a distinct and relatively modern change to civilisations. Before this, there is either no actual enforcement or it depends on whether a powerful person knows you broke a rule and cares to enforce it.
- loeg 10mo agoSure, but other court participants are given somewhat less grace for lying under oath.
- parineum 10mo agoAre they? Perjury isn't a commonly prosecuted crime.
- sylos 10mo agoIf an officer misremembers something about you, you go to jail . If you misremember something about the event, you also go to jail. Yeah, I guess it tracks
- parineum 10mo agoCool non-sequitur.
- loeg 10mo agoThat's why I qualified it with "somewhat."
- cwmoore 10mo agoNeither is grace a common defense.