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I'm curious about rob pike's anger. I wish I knew more about the ideas behind his emotions right now. Is he feeling a sense of loss because AI is "doing" code ?
by agumonkey 10mo ago
I'm curious about rob pike's anger. I wish I knew more about the ideas behind his emotions right now. Is he feeling a sense of loss because AI is "doing" code ? or is it because he foresees big VC / hedge funds swallowing an industry for profit through AI financing ?
- SecretDreams 10mo agoImagine you spent your whole life working on something great only for someone else to turn it into the death star?
- agumonkey 10mo agoyou mean openai and the likes swallowing computing and most probably not bringing global benefit for humans ? there are people saying devs were naive not seeing that our jobs would accelerate automation to the point we would be retired too
- SecretDreams 10mo agoYes
- agumonkey 10mo agoMaybe we should organize a way to take llm inference out of private companies partly.. a kind of social protocol where they can play but as long as enough of the population is unharmed.
- SecretDreams 10mo agoI actually feel like this for social media and other big tech things too. These mega corps should be forced to have to offer stripped down free versions w/ no strings attached and privacy if they're also offering commercial versions that benefit directly from internet infrastructure they haven't paid for and targeted ads/data theft that nobody can decline. A bit like fedora and redhat.
- agumonkey 10mo agocould be worth investigating
- benatkin 10mo ago"You" and "someone else" in this case are both part of Google.
- Zenbit_UX 10mo agoSounds like Robs anger is directed a multiple know issues and “crimes” that the AI industry is responsible for, it would be hard to compile an exhaustive list outside of a lawsuit but if you genuinely aren’t aware there’s plenty in the news cycle right now to occupy you and or outrage the average person. -Mass layoffs in tech AI data centers causing extreme increases in monthly electricity -bills across the US -Same as above but for water -The RAM crisis is entirely caused by Sam Altman - General fear and anxiety from many different professions about AI replacing them - Rape of the copyright system to train these models
- agumonkey 10mo agothanks i kinda agree with all of these ultimately AI is the equivalent of nuclear weaponry but for human economies.. this is something that should be controlled outside private companies (especially since it's part public research and public data..)
- beej71 10mo agoI find it notable that he pointing out making simpler software. One of my fears is the ease with which GenAI produces reams of code—that this will just lead to bloat and fragility.
- agumonkey 10mo agoI kinda believe this. there's a shift in how you make software here. LLM will produce a ton of code that embeds decisions, it's well done but it means you never have to reflect about the design, interfaces yourself. you can keep abusing the context window most of software engineering was dealing with human limits through compression. we make layers, modules, abstractions so that we can understand each part a bit
- xdavidliu 10mo agofor a book that surveys pretty much all of it, see "Empire of AI" by Karen Hao
- agumonkey 10mo agothanks do you happen to know if there are groups talking about how societies will rebalance after the gpt era ?
- ycombinatrix 10mo agoAt the very least, I would be angry that my inbox is getting spammed by a bot run by 3 obnoxious "entrepreneurs".