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"Simon Willison REACTS to Rob Pike's unfiltered opinion on AI". We must have the proper spin.

• brcmthrowaway 10mo ago
  Is anyone going to say something about him engagement farming on this site?
  • minimaxir 10mo ago
    Simon's posts are not "engagement farming" by any definition of the term. He posts good content frequently which is then upvoted by the Hacker News community, which should be the ideal for a Hacker News contributor. He has not engaged in clickbait, does not spam his own content (this very submission was not submitted by him), and does not directly financially benefit from pageviews to his content.
    • th0ma5 10mo ago
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      • minimaxir 10mo ago
        Point out which aspects of my comment you believe are untrue and I'll buy that bridge.
      • indigodaddy 10mo ago
        The simonw haters love to come out of the woodwork. I have to wonder, is it mostly just jealousy? I have to think yes.
        • pton_xd 10mo ago
          It's just fatigue from seeing the same people and themes repeatedly, non-stop, for the last X months on the site. Eventually you'd expect some tired reactions.
          • selfhoster11 10mo ago
            Better this than 300th React.JS bloatware of the year.
        • MyOutfitIsVague 10mo ago
          I think it's fatigue. His stuff appears on the front page very often, and there's often tons of LLM stuff on the front page, too. Even as an LLM user, it's getting tedious and repetitive.
        • stoopidpelican 10mo ago
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          • indigodaddy 10mo ago
            Lay out your grievances then.
    • grayhatter 10mo ago
      You and I disagree on what engagement farming means. What value do you think this post adds to the conversation?
      • minimaxir 10mo ago
        Simon's post focuses more on the startup/AI Village that caused the issue with citations and quotes, which has been lost in the discussion due to Rob Pike's initial heated message. It is not redundant.
        • grayhatter 10mo ago
          He links to both HN and lobsters which already contained this information, from before he did any research, so "has been lost" is certainly a take... But if that's value added, why frame it under the heading of popular drama/rage farming? To capture more attention? Do you believe the pop culture news sites would be interested if it discussed the idea and "experiment" without mentioning the rage bait?
          • minimaxir 10mo ago
            "How Rob Pike got spammed with an AI slop 'act of kindness'" is an objectively accurate frame that informs the user what it's related to: the only potentially charged part of it is calling it "AI slop" but that's not inaccurate. It does not fit the definition of ragebait (blatant misleading headline to encourage impulse reactions) nor does it fit the definition of clickbait (blatant omission of information to encourage the user to click though: having a headline with "How" does not fit the definition of clickbait, it just tells you what the article is about) How do you propose he should have framed it in a way that it is still helpful to the reader?
    • stoopidpelican 10mo ago
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• exasperaited 10mo ago
  This Hacker News Commenter Made A Devastating Perfect Reply To Simon Willison
  • riwsky 10mo ago
    Simon Willison: How this Devastating Perfect Reply Changed my Publishing Workflow, featuring Claude Code