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We already have two copies of this: (438 points, 373 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46389444 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46389444 (76

• Retr0id 11mo ago
  Related, but not copies
• bgwalter 11mo ago
  "Simon Willison REACTS to Rob Pike's unfiltered opinion on AI". We must have the proper spin.
  • brcmthrowaway 11mo ago
    Is anyone going to say something about him engagement farming on this site?
    • minimaxir 11mo ago
      Simon's posts are not "engagement farming" by any definition of the term. He posts good content frequently which is then upvoted by the Hacker News community, which should be the ideal for a Hacker News contributor. He has not engaged in clickbait, does not spam his own content (this very submission was not submitted by him), and does not directly financially benefit from pageviews to his content.
      • th0ma5 11mo ago
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        • minimaxir 11mo ago
          Point out which aspects of my comment you believe are untrue and I'll buy that bridge.
        • indigodaddy 11mo ago
          The simonw haters love to come out of the woodwork. I have to wonder, is it mostly just jealousy? I have to think yes.
          • pton_xd 11mo ago
            It's just fatigue from seeing the same people and themes repeatedly, non-stop, for the last X months on the site. Eventually you'd expect some tired reactions.
            • selfhoster11 11mo ago
              Better this than 300th React.JS bloatware of the year.
          • MyOutfitIsVague 11mo ago
            I think it's fatigue. His stuff appears on the front page very often, and there's often tons of LLM stuff on the front page, too. Even as an LLM user, it's getting tedious and repetitive.
          • stoopidpelican 11mo ago
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            • indigodaddy 11mo ago
              Lay out your grievances then.
      • grayhatter 11mo ago
        You and I disagree on what engagement farming means. What value do you think this post adds to the conversation?
        • minimaxir 11mo ago
          Simon's post focuses more on the startup/AI Village that caused the issue with citations and quotes, which has been lost in the discussion due to Rob Pike's initial heated message. It is not redundant.
          • grayhatter 11mo ago
            He links to both HN and lobsters which already contained this information, from before he did any research, so "has been lost" is certainly a take... But if that's value added, why frame it under the heading of popular drama/rage farming? To capture more attention? Do you believe the pop culture news sites would be interested if it discussed the idea and "experiment" without mentioning the rage bait?
            • minimaxir 11mo ago
              "How Rob Pike got spammed with an AI slop 'act of kindness'" is an objectively accurate frame that informs the user what it's related to: the only potentially charged part of it is calling it "AI slop" but that's not inaccurate. It does not fit the definition of ragebait (blatant misleading headline to encourage impulse reactions) nor does it fit the definition of clickbait (blatant omission of information to encourage the user to click though: having a headline with "How" does not fit the definition of clickbait, it just tells you what the article is about) How do you propose he should have framed it in a way that it is still helpful to the reader?
      • stoopidpelican 11mo ago
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  • exasperaited 11mo ago
    This Hacker News Commenter Made A Devastating Perfect Reply To Simon Willison
    • riwsky 11mo ago
      Simon Willison: How this Devastating Perfect Reply Changed my Publishing Workflow, featuring Claude Code
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