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$50,000 a year high school tuition can make anyone exceptionally talented

by _9za9 9mo ago

MontyCarloHall 9mo ago
Pasadena High School, where Matteo went to school, is public.
- halfmatthalfcat 9mo ago
  Not all high school educations are created equal - See Carmel High School (Carmel, IN), New Trier High School (Winnetka, IL), or any other High School in a densely high wealth area.
  - mothballed 9mo ago
    Pasadena school district spends $28K / student for their total $390M expenditures across ~14k students in 2023-2024 school year. I would bet dollars to doughnuts it's $30k+ per high school student since they are more expensive.
  - gammarator 9mo ago
    While Pasadena is a relatively wealthy city, historically there has been significant avoidance of its public schools by affluent residents: https://southerneducation.org/in-the-news/new-polling-data-finds-widespread-support-for-integrating-and-fairly-funding-public-schools/ https://southerneducation.org/in-the-news/new-polling-data-f...
cm2012 9mo ago
The data says this is not true. Quality of education has almost no effect on lifetime income outcomes when you control for initial test scores.
- csto12 9mo ago
  Do you have a source on this? That’s really interesting if true.
  - cm2012 9mo ago
    Sure. There are many studies but here is one. Will Dobbie & Roland Fryer (NBER) This study uses regression-discontinuity around exam cutoffs at Brooklyn Tech, Bronx Science, and Stuyvesant. It finds increased rigor of coursework but little impact on SAT scores, college enrollment, or college graduation, which are key predictors of lifetime earnings (and typically closely linked to earnings outcomes). https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w17286/w17286.pdf https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w17286/w172...
    - grumpy_coder 9mo ago
      The schools studied in that paper are free, or close to free. Not $50,000 per anum And I don't think OP was suggesting it's the quality of education that affects outcomes in attendees of expensive private high schools.
      - cm2012 9mo ago
        There are very similar studies for private schools, can't find this second

$50,000 a year high school tuition can make anyone exceptionally talented

by _9za9 9mo ago

$50,000 a year high school tuition can make anyone exceptionally talented

MontyCarloHall 9mo ago

Pasadena High School, where Matteo went to school, is public.

halfmatthalfcat 9mo ago
Not all high school educations are created equal - See Carmel High School (Carmel, IN), New Trier High School (Winnetka, IL), or any other High School in a densely high wealth area.
- mothballed 9mo ago
  Pasadena school district spends $28K / student for their total $390M expenditures across ~14k students in 2023-2024 school year. I would bet dollars to doughnuts it's $30k+ per high school student since they are more expensive.
- gammarator 9mo ago
  While Pasadena is a relatively wealthy city, historically there has been significant avoidance of its public schools by affluent residents: https://southerneducation.org/in-the-news/new-polling-data-finds-widespread-support-for-integrating-and-fairly-funding-public-schools/ https://southerneducation.org/in-the-news/new-polling-data-f...

cm2012 9mo ago

The data says this is not true. Quality of education has almost no effect on lifetime income outcomes when you control for initial test scores.

csto12 9mo ago
Do you have a source on this? That’s really interesting if true.
- cm2012 9mo ago
  Sure. There are many studies but here is one. Will Dobbie & Roland Fryer (NBER) This study uses regression-discontinuity around exam cutoffs at Brooklyn Tech, Bronx Science, and Stuyvesant. It finds increased rigor of coursework but little impact on SAT scores, college enrollment, or college graduation, which are key predictors of lifetime earnings (and typically closely linked to earnings outcomes). https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w17286/w17286.pdf https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w17286/w172...
  - grumpy_coder 9mo ago
    The schools studied in that paper are free, or close to free. Not $50,000 per anum And I don't think OP was suggesting it's the quality of education that affects outcomes in attendees of expensive private high schools.
    - cm2012 9mo ago
      There are very similar studies for private schools, can't find this second