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$10,000 to $20,000 in GPU costs over a couple months. I had $20 per week in highschool. Benefit of being rich is you are awarded opportunities.

by _9za9 9mo ago

andai 9mo ago
Where is this number from?
prodigycorp 9mo ago
You triggered an old memory of mine in high school of when I ran for class president in senior year and campaign spending was capped at $100 dollars and someone else flagrantly violated campaign finance rules and spent at least a thousand dollars primarily distributing pencils that would go on to litter the campus’ every corner.
- jihadjihad 9mo ago
  Did they win the election?
  - prodigycorp 9mo ago
    Yes. It was a close friend who told me he wasn’t running prior to the nomination deadline. I had done some strong analytics and figured I had great odds. Then I learned, from the dean, that he was running. He split my vote. I learned a lot about life from that experience lol.
- NooneAtAll3 9mo ago
  why would one throw away pencils?
  - dylan604 9mo ago
    Why would any one dump a load of tea in the bay?
    - NooneAtAll3 9mo ago
      to be a terrorist, obviously
  - rr808 9mo ago
    Most school students these days never have to write anything.
MontyCarloHall 9mo ago
From the paper [0]: "The computer used for this paper contains an NVIDIA Quadro RTX 6000 with 22 GB of VRAM, 200 GB of RAM, and a 32-core Xeon CPU, courtesy of Caltech." That GPU was first released in 2018, and can be had for ~$1500 today. The computer as a whole sounds exactly in-line with what a lab would have as an old spare machine. The student is lucky for sure to have access to such an institution, but it's not like he had rich parents who casually handed him $10-$20k. Much more likely he got access to Caltech resources because his exceptional talent caused a professor to take interest in him: "I would like to acknowledge and thank deeply my mentor Davy (Dr. J. Davy Kirkpatrick) for introducing me to astronomy at IPAC and providing guidance throughout this project, aiding in data analysis and the collection of known objects for the test set." [0] https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/1538-3881/ad7fe6 https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/1538-3881/ad7fe6
- why-o-why 9mo ago
  The post you were replying to is about privilege, then you defend with: "but it's not like he had rich parents who casually handed him $10-$20k. Much more likely he got access to Caltech resources because his exceptional talent caused a professor to take interest in him:" These two things are effectively the same.
  - Aurornis 9mo ago
    > The post you were replying to is about privilege The comment explicitly made a claim of $10K to $20K in GPU costs, which was unfounded and false. I’m tired of the hand-wringing over privilege any time someone young does something impressive. Access to a strong GPU wasn’t the deciding factor that made this kid able to do this work. It could have been done on an average GPU at slower throughput.
    - why-o-why 9mo ago
      >> I’m tired of the hand-wringing over privilege Your discomfort doesn't make privilege go away. The fact that he even could afford a GPU seems to go over your head. EDIT: Ok, so he didn't own a GPU and borrowed a PC from CalTec. That does not change the argument. On the one hand, I'm glad there is so much alignment on this issue, on the other hand its sad how hard people fight against privilege. I get it, for a long time I thought privilege was some whiny liberal thing. Through my decades I've seen over and over again the patterns of who wins and who loses, and privilege appears the same way bent spacetime makes gravity appear. People like the old me want to fight about how privilege/gravity is a myth. I'm terrible at arguing this, but I hope those of you fighting this concept acquire empathy and realize that not everyone has your advantages (and you may still be struggling too, that does not go away or get diminished, btw), and that the majority of that disadvantage is systemic, and intentional.

$10,000 to $20,000 in GPU costs over a couple months. I had $20 per week in highschool. Benefit of being rich is you are awarded opportunities.

by _9za9 9mo ago

$10,000 to $20,000 in GPU costs over a couple months. I had $20 per week in highschool. Benefit of being rich is you are awarded opportunities.

andai 9mo ago

Where is this number from?

prodigycorp 9mo ago

You triggered an old memory of mine in high school of when I ran for class president in senior year and campaign spending was capped at $100 dollars and someone else flagrantly violated campaign finance rules and spent at least a thousand dollars primarily distributing pencils that would go on to litter the campus’ every corner.

jihadjihad 9mo ago
Did they win the election?
- prodigycorp 9mo ago
  Yes. It was a close friend who told me he wasn’t running prior to the nomination deadline. I had done some strong analytics and figured I had great odds. Then I learned, from the dean, that he was running. He split my vote. I learned a lot about life from that experience lol.
NooneAtAll3 9mo ago
why would one throw away pencils?
- dylan604 9mo ago
  Why would any one dump a load of tea in the bay?
  - NooneAtAll3 9mo ago
    to be a terrorist, obviously
- rr808 9mo ago
  Most school students these days never have to write anything.

MontyCarloHall 9mo ago

From the paper [0]: "The computer used for this paper contains an NVIDIA Quadro RTX 6000 with 22 GB of VRAM, 200 GB of RAM, and a 32-core Xeon CPU, courtesy of Caltech." That GPU was first released in 2018, and can be had for ~$1500 today. The computer as a whole sounds exactly in-line with what a lab would have as an old spare machine. The student is lucky for sure to have access to such an institution, but it's not like he had rich parents who casually handed him $10-$20k. Much more likely he got access to Caltech resources because his exceptional talent caused a professor to take interest in him: "I would like to acknowledge and thank deeply my mentor Davy (Dr. J. Davy Kirkpatrick) for introducing me to astronomy at IPAC and providing guidance throughout this project, aiding in data analysis and the collection of known objects for the test set." [0] https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/1538-3881/ad7fe6 https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3847/1538-3881/ad7fe6

why-o-why 9mo ago
The post you were replying to is about privilege, then you defend with: "but it's not like he had rich parents who casually handed him $10-$20k. Much more likely he got access to Caltech resources because his exceptional talent caused a professor to take interest in him:" These two things are effectively the same.
- Aurornis 9mo ago
  > The post you were replying to is about privilege The comment explicitly made a claim of $10K to $20K in GPU costs, which was unfounded and false. I’m tired of the hand-wringing over privilege any time someone young does something impressive. Access to a strong GPU wasn’t the deciding factor that made this kid able to do this work. It could have been done on an average GPU at slower throughput.
  - why-o-why 9mo ago
    >> I’m tired of the hand-wringing over privilege Your discomfort doesn't make privilege go away. The fact that he even could afford a GPU seems to go over your head. EDIT: Ok, so he didn't own a GPU and borrowed a PC from CalTec. That does not change the argument. On the one hand, I'm glad there is so much alignment on this issue, on the other hand its sad how hard people fight against privilege. I get it, for a long time I thought privilege was some whiny liberal thing. Through my decades I've seen over and over again the patterns of who wins and who loses, and privilege appears the same way bent spacetime makes gravity appear. People like the old me want to fight about how privilege/gravity is a myth. I'm terrible at arguing this, but I hope those of you fighting this concept acquire empathy and realize that not everyone has your advantages (and you may still be struggling too, that does not go away or get diminished, btw), and that the majority of that disadvantage is systemic, and intentional.