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It's more a matter of effiency and battery life, and that's mostly due to Linux more than inherent to the Framework or its hardware (try running Asahi Linux on

by simjnd 9mo ago

It's more a matter of effiency and battery life, and that's mostly due to Linux more than inherent to the Framework or its hardware (try running Asahi Linux on an M MacBook and just notice your battery life be cut in half). I love my M1 Pro MacBook and I wish I could have the same efficiency when running Linux but I can't. My Framework runs faster, but a lot hotter, louder and with a lot less battery life. But I feel like I'm supporting a good company, a good cause, and I love that I can do software updates without fearing that it fucked everything up like every major macOS release does.

zikduruqe 9mo ago
> I love my M1 Pro MacBook and I wish I could have the same efficiency when running Linux but I can't. No doubt. And don't forget Apple nailed the trackpad experience too. But I seldom need to use my laptop for 20 hours away from an A/C outlet. It's nice, but not necessary for me. With that being said, I personally am going to start abandoning the Apple ecosystem with each device that NEEDS to be replaced. I'm tired of features being forced into each software cycle, and I don't want any AI on my devices. I'm going to lean into Framework (or keep my old T480 alive) and GrapheneOS when needed.
- whompyjaw 9mo ago
  I have been thinking this same thing… Goodluck! I would like my own onprem AI tho. And home assistant devices
  - zikduruqe 9mo ago
    I have Home Assistant running on an old Raspberry Pi and it is fabulous. Way quicker than HomeKit, and easier to tinker with, along with all kinds of integrations.
user_7832 9mo ago
That's a bit interesting, because IME linux on my framework 13 (7840u, 61wh battery) is surprisingly very solid. Fans almost never spin up (even with a windows KVM plus lot of firefox tabs), and I can get 6-8 hours easy, and 10+ hours of battery life if I push it (without even using power saving mode), on native linux (Fedora 40). Windows 10 in comparison gives maybe 4-5 hours of battery plus lots of fan usage (but lesser ram usage often).

by simjnd 9mo ago

zikduruqe 9mo ago

> I love my M1 Pro MacBook and I wish I could have the same efficiency when running Linux but I can't. No doubt. And don't forget Apple nailed the trackpad experience too. But I seldom need to use my laptop for 20 hours away from an A/C outlet. It's nice, but not necessary for me. With that being said, I personally am going to start abandoning the Apple ecosystem with each device that NEEDS to be replaced. I'm tired of features being forced into each software cycle, and I don't want any AI on my devices. I'm going to lean into Framework (or keep my old T480 alive) and GrapheneOS when needed.

whompyjaw 9mo ago
I have been thinking this same thing… Goodluck! I would like my own onprem AI tho. And home assistant devices
- zikduruqe 9mo ago
  I have Home Assistant running on an old Raspberry Pi and it is fabulous. Way quicker than HomeKit, and easier to tinker with, along with all kinds of integrations.

user_7832 9mo ago

That's a bit interesting, because IME linux on my framework 13 (7840u, 61wh battery) is surprisingly very solid. Fans almost never spin up (even with a windows KVM plus lot of firefox tabs), and I can get 6-8 hours easy, and 10+ hours of battery life if I push it (without even using power saving mode), on native linux (Fedora 40). Windows 10 in comparison gives maybe 4-5 hours of battery plus lots of fan usage (but lesser ram usage often).