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510 tonnes went to Moscow to never be seen again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Gold_(Spain) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Gold_(Spain)

• caminante 10mo ago
  No it didn't. The gold didn't disappear. Did you actually read the wiki you linked? Spain transferred the gold to Moscow who liquidated it on Spain's behalf to buy guns, fund the civil war, and deposit in banks. There's mixed views whether Moscow took too much of a margin, but they melted down gold after selling it and the gold is still in circulation.
  • ErneX 10mo ago
    Exactly that, never to be seen again :)
    • caminante 10mo ago
      Huh? If you melt down gold, how are you not staring at the same gold? Moscow didn't steal anything either.
      • ErneX 10mo ago
        "The Spaniards will never see their gold again, just as they don't see their ears" this is supposedly what Stalin said according to Alexander Orlov. From the same link.
        • throw20251220 10mo ago
          > supposedly
          • ErneX 10mo ago
            I’d give it the same relevance as “Moscow didn’t steal the gold” in any case.
            • caminante 10mo ago
              If you sell something to another party or they deposit it in a bank on your behalf, then the other party didn't steal it.
        • caminante 10mo ago
          You didn't answer my question. Cherrypicking a quote from Stalin who was using sarcastic humor at a banquet when the gold arrived also doesn't refute my point or answer my question.
      • gtech1 10mo ago
        Hah, and me who thought they only stole Romania's national treasure, under the guise of 'safekeeping'. I guess Russia has always been a shitty country.
        • caminante 10mo ago
          Except you're leaving out two key facts: 1. National treasures (ex gold) were returned in '35 and '56. 2. Romania intervened against the Bolsheviks in Bessarabia. #2 seems like FAFO to me. And I'm sure some Romanians got kickbacks from the "transfers." Nobody forced Romania to transfer their assets.
          • gtech1 10mo ago
            You have no idea what you are talking about. 1. They never returned 92tons of gold. The vast majority of the national treasure is still in Moscow. I hope the EU ties this to the current Russian assets frozen in the EU. 2. Bolsheviks ? Russia collapsed in 1917 and Bassarabia voted to join Romania. There was no Russian control in Bassarabia, no war, no fight. Nobody forced them, true, they were in dire circumstances, but it proves even more how much Russians can be trusted. 0. Shitty country since forever.
            • caminante 10mo ago
              Please read again and calm down. I expressly said "ex gold." >Bolsheviks ? Lmao. Where are you getting these falses premises? 1. Who rose to power after Russia collapsed in 2017? 2. There was no Bolshevik fighting or presence in Bessarabia? 3. Romania didn't intervene to fight Bolsheviks in Bessarabia? You must be hallucinating to think otherwise.[0] [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_military_intervention_in_Bessarabia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_military_intervention...
              • caminante 10mo ago
                1917*
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