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While I genuinely believe that documentary saddened you, you're basically saying that skilled workers in the first world don't deserve words connoting sympathy

While I genuinely believe that documentary saddened you, you're basically saying that skilled workers in the first world don't deserve words connoting sympathy or outrage when they're fucked over by their employer. You don't think Elvis was taking his economic privilege into account when he wrote "Heartbreak Hotel"? Maybe he should have called it "Momentary Romantic Setback Hotel". Or maybe the word "heartbreaking" should be reserved for citizens of the Democratic Republic of the Congo, where, all things considered, things are considerably more dire. "The National Adjective Council must regrettably inform you that your first world documentary viewing experience was merely 'disheartening'."

Uchikoma 14y ago
How have they been "fucked over"? They've bet on equity and it did not turn out the way they hoped. That the CEO cashed out before has nothing to do with that fact. And with "Pincus has a track record now of big IPO train wrecks. He founded Support.com and took it public for $14 a share during the first Internet bubble in 2000. The stock zoomed up by 133% in its first day of trading. It changed hands for more than $30 per share before tanking below $5 in 2001." they might have should known what was comming.
- kamaal 14y ago
  >>How have they been... Yes they make a mistake. That mistake is to bet on an unethical business man. The point is not that, the point is the CEO set different conditions for him and different for others. While the senior execs were allowed to cash out, guys down the ladder weren't.
  - Uchikoma 14y ago
    Which does not mean they have been "fucked over", or in which way have they? How does the fact that senior execs cashed out relate to the fact that they don't get rich b/c their company has no sustainable business model and the stock crashed?
    - kamaal 14y ago
      Because, regardless of whether the company performed well or not the senior execs and the CEO considered their right to cash out. But didn't hold the employees to have the same right. Which actually speaks a lot about the intentions of those senior execs, which is clearly to play a hit and run game.
      - Uchikoma 14y ago
        You consider employees that don't have the same rights as the CEO "fucked over?"
        marvin 14y ago
        Don't be obtuse. The primary insiders of Zynga sold like there was no tomorrow immediately after the IPO. They should have had the same lock-up period as the employees. The entire company just reeks of sleaze. You don't have to be a crackpot to notice these things.
    - talmand 14y ago
      Well, I think the definition applies when the thought was that the reason the CEO was able to cash out was because he set different rules for himself from his employees, as was explained, and that he knew the true outlook of the company which was bad, as was explained. What more do you require to understand the situation? I mean, if the CEO told everyone up front about the tactics he was going to use to allow him to cash out early that also prevented everyone else from doing the same at the same time and also that the future of the company was all downhill; then maybe you have a point. Maybe saying they were cheated is a better phrase for you? If you don't agree that that's fine. Which, by the way, I have a bridge for sale you might be interested in...
      - Uchikoma 14y ago
        You consider employees that don't have the same rules as the CEO "fucked over?"

Uchikoma 14y ago

How have they been "fucked over"? They've bet on equity and it did not turn out the way they hoped. That the CEO cashed out before has nothing to do with that fact. And with "Pincus has a track record now of big IPO train wrecks. He founded Support.com and took it public for $14 a share during the first Internet bubble in 2000. The stock zoomed up by 133% in its first day of trading. It changed hands for more than $30 per share before tanking below $5 in 2001." they might have should known what was comming.

kamaal 14y ago
>>How have they been... Yes they make a mistake. That mistake is to bet on an unethical business man. The point is not that, the point is the CEO set different conditions for him and different for others. While the senior execs were allowed to cash out, guys down the ladder weren't.
- Uchikoma 14y ago
  Which does not mean they have been "fucked over", or in which way have they? How does the fact that senior execs cashed out relate to the fact that they don't get rich b/c their company has no sustainable business model and the stock crashed?
  - kamaal 14y ago
    Because, regardless of whether the company performed well or not the senior execs and the CEO considered their right to cash out. But didn't hold the employees to have the same right. Which actually speaks a lot about the intentions of those senior execs, which is clearly to play a hit and run game.
    - Uchikoma 14y ago
      You consider employees that don't have the same rights as the CEO "fucked over?"
      - marvin 14y ago
        Don't be obtuse. The primary insiders of Zynga sold like there was no tomorrow immediately after the IPO. They should have had the same lock-up period as the employees. The entire company just reeks of sleaze. You don't have to be a crackpot to notice these things.
  - talmand 14y ago
    Well, I think the definition applies when the thought was that the reason the CEO was able to cash out was because he set different rules for himself from his employees, as was explained, and that he knew the true outlook of the company which was bad, as was explained. What more do you require to understand the situation? I mean, if the CEO told everyone up front about the tactics he was going to use to allow him to cash out early that also prevented everyone else from doing the same at the same time and also that the future of the company was all downhill; then maybe you have a point. Maybe saying they were cheated is a better phrase for you? If you don't agree that that's fine. Which, by the way, I have a bridge for sale you might be interested in...
    - Uchikoma 14y ago
      You consider employees that don't have the same rules as the CEO "fucked over?"