I dont want to speak for everyone at least but I dont particularly agree with thin divide between programmers and designers, the lack of gap is one of the reaso

I dont want to speak for everyone at least but I dont particularly agree with thin divide between programmers and designers, the lack of gap is one of the reasons that the web is so popular. While I havent seen that many programmers who can produce aesthetically brilliant design, I have seen far less designers that know nearly as much about the technical limitations of css layouts as the typical web programmer. There are solid situations where css (as much as I love it) just isnt capable and isnt the best solution, it isnt just down to lack of knowledge.