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To this day many good models don't support structured outputs (say Opus 4.5) so it's not a panacea you can count on in production. The bigger problem is that L
by avaer 10mo ago
To this day many good models don't support structured outputs (say Opus 4.5) so it's not a panacea you can count on in production.
The bigger problem is that LangChain/Python is the least set up to take advantage of strong schemas even when you do have it.
Agree about pillaging for prompts though.
- teruakohatu 10mo ago> so it's not a panacea you can count on in production. OpenAI and Gemini models can handle ridiculously complicated and convoluted schemas, if I needed complicated JSON output I wouldn’t use anything that didn’t guarantee it. I have pushed Gemini 2.5 Pro further than I thought possible when it comes to ridiculously over complicated (by necessity) structured output.
- jmogly 10mo ago100% Gemini + pydantic you don’t need a wrapper library in 2025