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This is (a) wildly over expectations for open source and (b) a massive pain to maintain, and (c) not even the biggest timewaster of python, which is the packagi

• loeg 11mo ago
  > not even the biggest timewaster of python, which is the packaging "system". For frequent, short-running scripts: start-up time! Every import has to scan a billion different directories for where the module might live, even for standard modules included with the interpreter.
  • tweakimp 11mo ago
    In the near future we will use lazy imports :) https://peps.python.org/pep-0810/ https://peps.python.org/pep-0810/
    • theLiminator 11mo ago
      This can't come soon enough. Python is great for CLIs until you build something complex and a simple --help takes seconds. It's not something easily worked around without making your code very ugly.
      • peterfirefly 11mo ago
        It's not that hard to handle --help and --version separately before importing anything.
        • eru 11mo ago
          You could, but it doesn't really seem all that useful? I mean, when are you ever going to run this in a hot loop?
• eru 11mo ago
  > [...] not even the biggest timewaster of python, which is the packaging "system". The new `uv` is making good progress there.