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Firefox tried to use it and was sued for trademark infringement. wxPython also has a Phoenix project. It's definitely a catchy, but overused, name.

LeFantome 10mo ago
I don’t think the problem was with “phoenix”. It was Project Phoenix (resurrection of the Netscape browser). This resulted in the Firebird browser (Firebird and Thunderbird). But Firebird was an existing database that objected to the name. So, we got Firefox instead. At least that is how I remember it.
- lmz 10mo ago
  Wasn't it renamed because of these people? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Technologies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Technologies
  - wakawaka28 10mo ago
    Yes, and that was just the start lol... https://www.zdnet.com/article/mozilla-holds-fire-in-naming-fight/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/mozilla-holds-fire-in-naming-f...
- loeg 10mo ago
  Yeah, me too. https://website-archive.mozilla.org/www.mozilla.org/firefox_releasenotes/en-us/firefox/releases/0.7 https://website-archive.mozilla.org/www.mozilla.org/firefox_...
  - wakawaka28 10mo ago
    https://www.zdnet.com/article/mozilla-holds-fire-in-naming-fight/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/mozilla-holds-fire-in-naming-f... All the first 3 names were taken. They probably had to bribe even the holders of the Firefox trademark to get it (though the terms were never disclosed).
- wakawaka28 10mo ago
  Mozilla was sued to rename Firefox (like I said) by one Phoenix Technologies. If I remember right, they picked two bad names before picking "Firefox" but I don't remember the other one.
loeg 10mo ago
Firefox was Firebird, not Phoenix.
- wakawaka28 10mo ago
  I think Firebird was the second name they tried to use that was already taken. They were definitely sued by Phoenix Technologies for one incident. Bryan Lunduke has a podcast explaining the history of this but I saw the one about Phoenix on the Wikipedia page before posting. Edit: Here you go: https://www.zdnet.com/article/mozilla-holds-fire-in-naming-fight/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/mozilla-holds-fire-in-naming-f...

LeFantome 10mo ago

I don’t think the problem was with “phoenix”. It was Project Phoenix (resurrection of the Netscape browser). This resulted in the Firebird browser (Firebird and Thunderbird). But Firebird was an existing database that objected to the name. So, we got Firefox instead. At least that is how I remember it.

lmz 10mo ago
Wasn't it renamed because of these people? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Technologies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Technologies
- wakawaka28 10mo ago
  Yes, and that was just the start lol... https://www.zdnet.com/article/mozilla-holds-fire-in-naming-fight/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/mozilla-holds-fire-in-naming-f...
loeg 10mo ago
Yeah, me too. https://website-archive.mozilla.org/www.mozilla.org/firefox_releasenotes/en-us/firefox/releases/0.7 https://website-archive.mozilla.org/www.mozilla.org/firefox_...
- wakawaka28 10mo ago
  https://www.zdnet.com/article/mozilla-holds-fire-in-naming-fight/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/mozilla-holds-fire-in-naming-f... All the first 3 names were taken. They probably had to bribe even the holders of the Firefox trademark to get it (though the terms were never disclosed).
wakawaka28 10mo ago
Mozilla was sued to rename Firefox (like I said) by one Phoenix Technologies. If I remember right, they picked two bad names before picking "Firefox" but I don't remember the other one.

loeg 10mo ago

Firefox was Firebird, not Phoenix.

wakawaka28 10mo ago
I think Firebird was the second name they tried to use that was already taken. They were definitely sued by Phoenix Technologies for one incident. Bryan Lunduke has a podcast explaining the history of this but I saw the one about Phoenix on the Wikipedia page before posting. Edit: Here you go: https://www.zdnet.com/article/mozilla-holds-fire-in-naming-fight/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/mozilla-holds-fire-in-naming-f...